Norpig wrote:For the record Sluffy i haven't ignored your explanations, i just see things differently. You go on about him not having to pay for things out of his own pocket which is legally correct but morally stinks.
Also he did buy the club hoping for a quick profit but he got caught out. Believe it or not i had no issue with that when he first came in but the way he ran the club when the shit hit the fan left a lot to be desired.
Football is not like any other business and shouldn't be compared to how a normal business runs. there's too much emotion and history wrapped up in clubs not to mention the supporters.
No mate, that's exactly the point you and nearly everybody else goes wrong - it IS like every other business.
It has to trade in the same way as everyone one else does, it has to 'earn' more than it 'spends' otherwise it goes bust.
It's as simple as that.
'History' doesn't count for anything, Thomas Cook the travel agents were founded in 1841 - thirty years before BWFC - but when it couldn't pay it's bills it went bust - nobody cared about it's history when they couldn't make any money from it.
'Emotions' don't count for anything in the business world either, some people loved 'Woolworth's', 'Preston's of Bolton' and even 'Bury Football Club' but it counted for nothing when they could no longer pay their way.
As for 'supporters' that is just another name for 'customers' and if there simply aren't enough customers wanting to buy the product to enable the business (club) to cover its costs, then it simply will go bust.
You probably think I'm cold hearted, maybe I am, but that's how it works - and that's why you and others simply don't 'get it'.
Make no mistake that if FV can't cover their costs then sooner or later when they reach the limit they've set themselves, they will pull out to - and who wants to buy football clubs right now?
Football IS a business.
Businesses need to earn more than they spend.
Football has lived in a bubble for sometime now but for clubs outside the Premier League the bubble is bursting and clubs (players wages) can't be covered from what the clubs earn each year.
If this virus prevents clubs earning vital money from gate receipts (there's already talk of crowds not being allowed into grounds until at least next year) and the EFL can't find someway of 'giving' (not loaning) money to these clubs to keep trading, then some clubs WILL go out of business, irrespective of their history, or how emotional their supporters are.
Players 'could' help a great deal by taking a pay cut but despite all the 'glitz and spin' that the PR companies are doing on their behalf, the vast majority won't do that.
Even some of the big clubs in the Premier League are starting to get worried.
That's why they are so desperate to get the league going again just to get the Sky money flowing again (or rather not to have to refund what they've already received up front from them) - they certainly aren't doing it just to please their fans!
Football IS a business.
People need to understand and accept that otherwise they are just in denial of what it is all about and how it actually works.