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OFFICIAL - Ian Evatt is our new manager!!!

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boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Talks a good game. Let's hope he can produce the goods.

Expansive, entertaining football? Not sure I'm ready for that. Surprised

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I wish him well. He's getting us all fired up, and I hope it all comes together for him, (and us). 
Welcome to the club Mr Evatt.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
My mole is still saying Ricketts.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
i think you should reconsider his retainer

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:My mole is still saying Ricketts.
 Does your mole need examining and is it hairy?

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:My mole is still saying Ricketts.
Is your mole self-diagnosing perhaps?

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Talks a good game. Let's hope he can produce the goods.

Expansive, entertaining football? Not sure I'm ready for that. Surprised
Delighted it's sorted but the "expansive, entertaining" and "possession-based" team that will score goals is a helluva lot to promise.... or is it to aim for?
I was pleased that Barrow said our management team behaved professionally - we need references after our last owner and it bodes well for the future. Gawd I hope he delivers - although it does appear that he hasn't got responsibility for signings. Presume he'll be consulted and it may be as simple as Evatt handing them a wish list, but I suspect not. Still, very positive development.

terenceanne

terenceanne
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Evatt ...Out 

Just wanted to beat Nat to it this time Smile

Whitesince63


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
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Delighted it's sorted but the "expansive, entertaining" and "possession-based" team that will score goals is a helluva lot to promise.... or is it to aim for?
I was pleased that Barrow said our management team behaved professionally - we need references after our last owner and it bodes well for the future. Gawd I hope he delivers - although it does appear that he hasn't got responsibility for signings. Presume he'll be consulted and it may be as simple as Evatt handing them a wish list, but I suspect not. Still, very positive development.

Who said he hasn’t got responsibility for signings lusty? Both Ian Evatt and Toby will decide together who we bring in but I don’t for a minute think players will be forced upon him, otherwise what’s the point of recruiting someone whose main strength is evaluating players. Toby will probably be the main one negotiating the fine detail of contracts or dealing with agents but Evatt will definitely be involved in deciding who it is we do sign.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
As an aside, I'm quite pleased to see that management conducted themselves in a proper manner, (as touched on by Wander,), and we weren't promised the Earth with nothing but waffle, and lies to show at the end of it. It was quick and clean, and very positive. I am now hoping that the buying, (or whatever), of players. continues in the same way. Well done team.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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Who said he hasn’t got responsibility for signings lusty? Both Ian Evatt and Toby will decide together who we bring in but I don’t for a minute think players will be forced upon him, otherwise what’s the point of recruiting someone whose main strength is evaluating players. Toby will probably be the main one negotiating the fine detail of contracts or dealing with agents but Evatt will definitely be involved in deciding who it is we do sign.
It was the "head coach" job title that made me think he may not have responsibility for signings as the whole point of the title is take pressure off him so he can focus on the team. I mean why not "manager" if he has that responsibility? In most countries, head coach equates to manager, but in the UK to date, head coaches like when Pochettino was at Spurs, Pulis at West Brom etc they only pick and train the team while the recruiting is done by someone else.
Now that isn't to say that the HC doesn't influence buying decisions and I guess the key to that is how much influence the coach has on recruitment as alluded to in my comments. It could well be the case that the coach actually decides who he wants whilst someone else does the mechanics of the deal.
If you happen to know how the specific relationship will work at BWFC I'd be interested to know.

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Who said he hasn’t got responsibility for signings lusty? Both Ian Evatt and Toby will decide together who we bring in but I don’t for a minute think players will be forced upon him, otherwise what’s the point of recruiting someone whose main strength is evaluating players. Toby will probably be the main one negotiating the fine detail of contracts or dealing with agents but Evatt will definitely be involved in deciding who it is we do sign.
It was the "head coach" job title that made me think he may not have responsibility for signings as the whole point of the title is take pressure off him so he can focus on the team. I mean why not "manager" if he has that responsibility? In most countries, head coach equates to manager, but in the UK to date, head coaches like when Pochettino was at Spurs, Pulis at West Brom etc they only pick and train the team while the recruiting is done by someone else.
Now that isn't to say that the HC doesn't influence buying decisions and I guess the key to that is how much influence the coach has on recruitment as alluded to in my comments. It could well be the case that the coach actually decides who he wants whilst someone else does the mechanics of the deal.
If you happen to know how the specific relationship will work at BWFC I'd be interested to know.

Evatt was unveiled as Bolton’s first-ever head coach. And much has been discussed among supporters as to what that might mean.

The division of labour between Evatt, and the head of football operations, Tobias Phoenix, has been particularly scrutinised by all but the new man himself.

Head coach or manager it doesn’t matter, the job spec is exactly the same,” he said. “I’ll be working extremely close with Tobias and all the staff".

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I'm quite excited by all this now - decent wage budget at this level, playing like Barca, a plan in place - what could possibly go wrong?

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
It would be good to see some possession football for a change, might need a whole new midfield though as the likes of Murphy and Lowe couldn't string 3 passes together last season.

You would hope with the amount of out of contract players up for grabs we can compete and sign some of the better ones. We are still a big name at this level and have the best facilities and stadium at this level as well.

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
You'd think the likes of Murphy and Lowe wouldn't fit his 'philosophy' as you say Pig neither are great passers and neither have a great amount of energy. There's been a lot to moan about with this team for years now, but one of my main gripes has been the complete lack of quality and legs in central midfield. 

Willing runners who can press and get beyond the attackers to support make a massive difference, when was the last time we had a pair who could do that? Probably Muamba and Holden who really did underpin that team - so unlucky to be robbed of both. After them it was the likes of Pratley, Andrews and Spearing - no wonder we've fallen so far.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I think your right TROY. Our midfield has been piss poor for ages, hence the back to front football we've been 'entertained' with. I like the new bosses idea of a team with a functioning spine because its easier to pass to the player in front of you  rather than treat the centre circle as a sinkhole, always to be ignored.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Every manager since Allardyce has arrived at the club with a "philosophy".

How has that worked out?

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Come on Nat be positive! From all the articles i've read about him i'm genuinely excited for the first time in years. He developed a style of playing at Barrow so why can't he do the same thing for us?

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I've nothing against the guy, but the fan reaction was exactly the same when Hill took over.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I've nothing against the guy, but the fan reaction was exactly the same when Hill took over.

It was - as was the initial press release. We've all been here before so all we can hope for is that this time we'll stop the slide and it will come good.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I have to say that I was optimistic with Hill, but always had my reservations. I think the new boss is different. I can't quite put my finger on it, but even if we don't have a good start, I think the things he's aiming for are more positive, especially in the long-term.

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I've nothing against the guy, but the fan reaction was exactly the same when Hill took over.

True, but surely he is unlikely to be as bonkers as Hill proved to be... ..dunno..

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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True, but surely he is unlikely to be as bonkers as Hill proved to be... ..dunno..
...but probably won't be in a position to make 9 signings on his first day either

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Evatt is so positive, I'm sure we'll get away with a couple of cardboard cutouts if we can't get the players he wants.  Very Happy

Sluffy

Sluffy
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True, but surely he is unlikely to be as bonkers as Hill proved to be... ..dunno..
...but probably won't be in a position to make 9 signings on his first day either

Tbh I wasn't over the moon when we got Hill but I did think we had done well getting a manager with experience and a degree of success at the level we had then become.

I had no idea of many/any of the players he signed but I did think (and still do) that he had done well up to the approach of January, then something clearly happened behind the scenes and to be frank he was just a waste of space after then.

His interviews were bizarre to say the least and I think basically he most have behaved similarly behind the scenes and pissed people off - notably those in charge or influenced by them (Peter Kenyon perhaps?).

I reckon the thinking around that time was that we wouldn't escape relegation unless Hill was backed to the hilt (maybe not even if he was) and that they weren't prepared to do that.  Maybe Hill wanted an extended contract perhaps and they said no.

I think whatever happened the planning from around that point in time was based on seeing out Hills contract (maybe the wasn't the funds to sack him and Flitcroft and bring a new management team in with half the season left and hope whoever came in had a magic wand to save us?) accepting relegation was probably a certainty and start to plan for next season.

Maybe it is just my imagination but if you read Iles interview with Phoenix

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and start with the thought that his appointment was based around something like - the plan is to get rid of Hill, so your job is to keep the football side of the club functioning until his contract is up and at the same time plan for a successor who will build a style of football that is both appealing to the fans (to keep them coming through the doors) and sustainable (not chopping between dour stuff - Megson and Parkinson and kamikaze stuff like that idiot Coyle) - all within a sustainable budget.  Oh and if you have any problems Hill (which no doubt you will) refer him to Kenyon who will deal with him) - then it all sorts of slots in - well it does for me!

Anyway I'm sorry for Hill in a small way but I think that every time he opened his mouth that he brought all this upon himself and really pleased/excited that we seem to be going down the innovative football route under Evatt and with sensible financial planning behind it.

What could possibly go wrong with that eh!

Fingers crossed!

Sluffy

Sluffy
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