A heartfelt plea!

wanderlust wrote:
I don't "hate the Tories" as such though.

What I do hate is corruption, cold-heartedness, incompetence, misleading propaganda, totalitarian style government, protecting the rich at the expense of the poor, putting self-aggrandisement ahead of the needs of the country and downright lying to the people.

Not all Tories are like the current government. Some have values, moral standards and are prepared to put the country ahead of their careers.

You wrote that you felt that the current government isn't representative of "Tory values" and if the grass roots Tory media - which I have referenced on these very pages - is anything to go by, you're not alone in thinking that.

It's a lazy slur to suggest I hate the Tories and you need to differentiate between my justifiable criticism of this government and ALL Tories.

I would also question your assertion that I don't accept anything they've done well - Tories have done constructive things in the past:

Disraeli's Reform Act, The Enfranchisement of Women, The Industrial Charter and taking the country into Europe all helped build a more stable and fair society - but they are exceptions TBH - most of the policies through history have been around the themes of maintaining the privilege of the few at the expense of the many and promoting xenophobia and isolation neither of which I subscribe to.

But that doesn't mean I hate all Tories nor does it mean that I don't recognise some achievements.

Bwfc1958 wrote:First time I've logged in on as long as I can remember. This is the first thread I had a look at.

I'll be honest, it made me smile. It has always been this way. Remember Bread, Scott, Boggers, AD et al?

The only thing that will kill a site is no traffic. I don't mind it, its just arguing over the Internet. Sticks and stones and all that.

If that's what people want to do then leave them to it. I mean come on kp, you've seen far worse than this on a Friday night behind bargain booze with your pants round your ankles than to be running into the shadows because people are using bad words against each other on the Internet. Let's face it Norpig, if these two were wearing ALF masks while having this argument you'd be knocking one out in the hospital toilets. 

In summary, lighten the fuck up and crack on. There's far worse going in the world right now than a couple of senior citizens arguing about politics on a forum. It's basically what forums are for.

Anyway, nice to see you all again you miserable turds. 

Hip Priest wrote:In all fairness to KP and Norpig 53 you have just returned to the site after a major absence (and many, many thanks by the way for returning). This feud has been going on every day for months/years now, there's no prospect of it ending any time soon and so many people are fed up to the back teeth with it. 
It is driving people away from the site and putting off new posters joining.

wanderlust wrote:
It's not and has never been "a feud" in my mind - it's just been dubbed that and built up by others, mainly those who like to complain about it. The guy doesn't like me and is always starting trouble by making unnecessary personal comments and I just think he's a wanker and say so. Hardly a feud in my book.

What puts people off -apart from a few precious souls and those who are probably bored to death by others banging on about this imaginary "feud" - is the lack of interesting debate (which tends to get closed down before it gets really informative for one spurious reason or another) and the dearth of new material to capture the imagination, amuse and inform.

It's come to something when there are more posts speculating about the meaning of company accounting (or absence thereof) than actual football, opinions, news or personal experience - fictional or otherwise.

Like that guy who bears more than a passing resemblance to James Woods....



True story

Ditto

Hip Priest wrote:
 
Nail on the head Lusty. My sentiments exactly.

Hip Priest wrote:
 
Nail on the head Lusty. My sentiments exactly.

Bwfc1958 wrote:First time I've logged in on as long as I can remember. This is the first thread I had a look at.

I'll be honest, it made me smile. It has always been this way. Remember Bread, Scott, Boggers, AD et al?

The only thing that will kill a site is no traffic. I don't mind it, its just arguing over the Internet. Sticks and stones and all that.

If that's what people want to do then leave them to it. I mean come on kp, you've seen far worse than this on a Friday night behind bargain booze with your pants round your ankles than to be running into the shadows because people are using bad words against each other on the Internet. Let's face it Norpig, if these two were wearing ALF masks while having this argument you'd be knocking one out in the hospital toilets. 

In summary, lighten the fuck up and crack on. There's far worse going in the world right now than a couple of senior citizens arguing about politics on a forum. It's basically what forums are for.

Anyway, nice to see you all again you miserable turds. 

Norpig wrote:Its so good to see the site looking busier now and a few more people back and posting. Lets all keep up the good work and not slip back in to our old ways.

boltonbonce wrote:

Norpig wrote:Its so good to see the site looking busier now and a few more people back and posting. Lets all keep up the good work and not slip back in to our old ways.

I'm getting that warm feeling, that says, you shouldn't have polished off that Lucozade before getting into bed.

karlypants wrote:
Time for some Tena for men Bonce?

boltonbonce wrote:

karlypants wrote:
Time for some Tena for men Bonce?

Probably a better idea than the bicycle clips I'm using at the moment.

Norpig wrote:Its so good to see the site looking busier now and a few more people back and posting. Lets all keep up the good work and not slip back in to our old Bumchums.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Norpig wrote:

 I slipped into you a few times and you never complained.

boltonbonce wrote:After Eric, she probably didn't notice.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Sadly, it was like a worm going through the Channel Tunnel.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Sadly, it was like a worm going through the Channel Tunnel.