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Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose?

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1Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 11:36 am

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Bolton were on a home roll going into the Blackpool game. 8 wins on the trot and then we're 2-0 down to bloody Blackpool.

Bolton pull it back by half-time but the second 45 minutes was a total anti-climax with little effort put in to win the game.

Is it possible that the Bolton players didn't want to get promoted? And maybe even the manager?

Let's face it, the vast majority of the current Bolton team is shit. How many of them would have been comfortable in the Premier League? Not many, and I'm guessing the players knew this. Promotion would mean new players.

So why would the players give 100% for a cause that could see them relegated to the reserves or sold to another Championship (or worse) club?

Would you give 100% if your boss gave you a target, but you knew hitting that target would mean you being made redundant?

Is it just possible our fate was decided before a ball was kicked?

2Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 11:47 am

Triumph


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

No no no and no! otherwise we would have kept Coyle.

3Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 11:48 am

Guest


Guest

Natasha Whittam wrote:Bolton were on a home roll going into the Blackpool game. 8 wins on the trot and then we're 2-0 down to bloody Blackpool.

Bolton pull it back by half-time but the second 45 minutes was a total anti-climax with little effort put in to win the game.

Is it possible that the Bolton players didn't want to get promoted? And maybe even the manager?

Let's face it, the vast majority of the current Bolton team is shit. How many of them would have been comfortable in the Premier League? Not many, and I'm guessing the players knew this. Promotion would mean new players.

So why would the players give 100% for a cause that could see them relegated to the reserves or sold to another Championship (or worse) club?

Would you give 100% if your boss gave you a target, but you knew hitting that target would mean you being made redundant?

Is it just possible our fate was decided before a ball was kicked?

Why would the players give up their promotion bonuses? Most of them would be confident of being first team next season too, you can't tell me Zat Knight doesn't believe he should be in the next England squad.

This is a Reebok Rebel style conspiracy theory, shame on you.

:facepalm:

4Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 11:52 am

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

bwfc1874 wrote:

Why would the players give up their promotion bonuses? Most of them would be confident of being first team next season too, you can't tell me Zat Knight doesn't believe he should be in the next England squad.

This is a Reebok Rebel style conspiracy theory, shame on you.

:facepalm:

Come off it, Sordell....Ngog...Cavies...Pratley...Ricketts...Ream...etc all knew they wouldn't be close to the 1st team in the PL.

5Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 11:56 am

Bernard Dennis Park

Bernard Dennis Park
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

What a stupid thread.

6Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 12:00 pm

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
bwfc1874 wrote:

Why would the players give up their promotion bonuses? Most of them would be confident of being first team next season too, you can't tell me Zat Knight doesn't believe he should be in the next England squad.

This is a Reebok Rebel style conspiracy theory, shame on you.

:facepalm:

Come off it, Sordell....Ngog...Cavies...Pratley...Ricketts...Ream...etc all knew they wouldn't be close to the 1st team in the PL.

Im sure most of them would be confident of playing in the prem.

Why would 'overpaid ponces' who only care about money give up the chance of a promotion bonus in favour of another year in the championship?

It's nonsense which you don't really believe.

Im back to believing Rebel is another one of your characters and you've forgotten to change accounts.

7Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 12:07 pm

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

This season just gone all three promoted clubs ditched a shedload of players and sacked their manager. How can Dougie and the players look at that and not fear for their futures?

When it comes to your job everyone is the same, it's all about self preservation.

8Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 12:14 pm

Triumph


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Natasha Whittam wrote:This season just gone all three promoted clubs ditched a shedload of players and sacked their manager. How can Dougie and the players look at that and not fear for their futures?

When it comes to your job everyone is the same, it's all about self preservation.
So is that why DF left Palace in case they got promoted?
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] There you go Natasha.



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9Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 12:22 pm

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I think you're all extremely naive if you don't think this sort of thing goes on at clubs up and down the country.

Average players won't want to rock the boat.

10Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 12:33 pm

Michael Bolton

Michael Bolton
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Nat, you wrote this topic after reading my post on QPR didn't you?

11Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 12:57 pm

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Natasha Whittam wrote:Bolton were on a home roll going into the Blackpool game. 8 wins on the trot and then we're 2-0 down to bloody Blackpool.

Bolton pull it back by half-time but the second 45 minutes was a total anti-climax with little effort put in to win the game.

Is it possible that the Bolton players didn't want to get promoted? And maybe even the manager?

Let's face it, the vast majority of the current Bolton team is shit. How many of them would have been comfortable in the Premier League? Not many, and I'm guessing the players knew this. Promotion would mean new players.

So why would the players give 100% for a cause that could see them relegated to the reserves or sold to another Championship (or worse) club?

Would you give 100% if your boss gave you a target, but you knew hitting that target would mean you being made redundant?

Is it just possible our fate was decided before a ball was kicked?
I sometimes doubt your gender N but you have certainly employed some woman's logic on this topic! What a half witted fool you can be at times!! Spoken by a "supporter"(and I use the term loosely) who has never kicked a football in anger in their life. Thanks for giving me some dinner time amusement.Very Happy

12Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 1:49 pm

waynagain

waynagain
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Next thing you'll be saying we deliberately got knocked out of Europe to concentrate on the Prem.

13Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 1:57 pm

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

haha.

i can hear the barrel being scraped.

14Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 2:06 pm

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

This is the worst thread you've ever posted.

15Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 2:08 pm

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:haha.

i can hear the barrel being scraped.

Just an interesting theory. So many clubs get close to the play-offs/promotion but it all goes tits up at the last minute. I was just wondering if the fear of being ditched makes the players less inclined to give 100%.

None of you are professional footballers so how would you know.

But I'll ask the question again: if your boss gave you a target that would gain a big bonus, but came with a likely chance of redundancy....what would you do?

16Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 2:10 pm

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

They are on a contract, so they couldn't possibly lose money.

+ they will have a promotion clause, so they would get more.

17Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 2:13 pm

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Lofty_Love wrote:They are on a contract, so they couldn't possibly lose money.

+ they will have a promotion clause, so they would get more.


Are you deliberately missing the point you bellend?

If BWFC get promoted it stands to reason better players will be brought in. That leaves the current shite with two choices - move on or play in the reserves.

They won't want to move on as it's unlikely any club will offer them the wages BWFC do, but neither will they want the embarrassment of playing in front of 150 people at Leyland.

Easier to play shite in big games and keep the fat wages and 1st team place.

18Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 2:22 pm

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Natasha Whittam wrote:
Lofty_Love wrote:They are on a contract, so they couldn't possibly lose money.

+ they will have a promotion clause, so they would get more.


Are you deliberately missing the point you bellend?

If BWFC get promoted it stands to reason better players will be brought in. That leaves the current shite with two choices - move on or play in the reserves.

They won't want to move on as it's unlikely any club will offer them the wages BWFC do, but neither will they want the embarrassment of playing in front of 150 people at Leyland.

Easier to play shite in big games and keep the fat wages and 1st team place.

Yeah I forgot players careers get worse when they get promoted.

They would be earning more, most would get games and if they didn't they could ask to be loaned out

19Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 2:26 pm

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Lofty_Love wrote:

Yeah I forgot players careers get worse when they get promoted.

They would be earning more, most would get games and if they didn't they could ask to be loaned out

:facepalm:

20Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Empty Re: Did Bolton Bottle It On Purpose? Tue May 21, 2013 2:30 pm

Lofty_Love

Lofty_Love
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Please explain how you think you're making any sense

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