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Should we have to pay a TV licence in this day and age?

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waynagain

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Tony Kelly
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bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
Reebok Trotter wrote:He does have a point when you calculate the figures.
Cable, Satellite and Over the Air TV is going to soon be a thing of the past. With things like Apple TV, Roku, Hulu etc springing up each month, you will only need an internet connection and then be able to just pick and choose what you want to watch. I can currently watch every Prem Game and some Champioship games without having to pay. Same with Rugby. BBC does produce some excellent programmes which the License Fee pays for, but they are going to have to move with the times and either start having adverts or a subscription. The BBC News is on my TV right now and it has commercial breaks and the same with BBC America.





first point - I may have missed this in any other thread but how the hell can you write outside the quote box??????

second point - @ Waynagain - so you won't be subscribing to NBC Sports who will be showing EVERY Premier League game?
NBC is available in the USA for free over the air, just like ITV and BBC in England. My BIG concern with NBC is that they got the contract for the Olympics on the condition that they would show everything 'live' - they didn't. All the 'big' events like the 100 meter finals were actually shown via tape delay in Prime Time, my concern is that if United are playing City or Chelsea it will be on at 8pm at night and anyone who follows the Prem will already know the score. Not all games will be on NBC, some will be on Univision (the Mexican channel) - I don't 'need' to subscribe to NBC, NBC Sports or Univision as I can see any Prem game on the internet. All those stations are currently in the 'Family Package" which I currently subscribe to anyway, but If they want me to pay more for them, then I'll unsubscribe.

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

waynagain wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
Reebok Trotter wrote:He does have a point when you calculate the figures.
Cable, Satellite and Over the Air TV is going to soon be a thing of the past. With things like Apple TV, Roku, Hulu etc springing up each month, you will only need an internet connection and then be able to just pick and choose what you want to watch. I can currently watch every Prem Game and some Champioship games without having to pay. Same with Rugby. BBC does produce some excellent programmes which the License Fee pays for, but they are going to have to move with the times and either start having adverts or a subscription. The BBC News is on my TV right now and it has commercial breaks and the same with BBC America.





first point - I may have missed this in any other thread but how the hell can you write outside the quote box??????

second point - @ Waynagain - so you won't be subscribing to NBC Sports who will be showing EVERY Premier League game?
NBC is available in the USA for free over the air, just like ITV and BBC in England. My BIG concern with NBC is that they got the contract for the Olympics on the condition that they would show everything 'live' - they didn't. All the 'big' events like the 100 meter finals were actually shown via tape delay in Prime Time, my concern is that if United are playing City or Chelsea it will be on at 8pm at night and anyone who follows the Prem will already know the score. Not all games will be on NBC, some will be on Univision (the Mexican channel) - I don't 'need' to subscribe to NBC, NBC Sports or Univision as I can see any Prem game on the internet. All those stations are currently in the 'Family Package" which I currently subscribe to anyway, but If they want me to pay more for them, then I'll unsubscribe.

So do you pay a TV provider or not, such as DirecTV? Or do you just use an aeriel? Last time I was in the States the TV was carried by a provider and one had to pay the provider even to receive the basic 5 networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW - albeit the local affiliates which mean they don't necessarily carry the same programming as the networks in other towns and cities, except for primetime programmes for 4 hours a night). But because we were paying a provider who then has to pay the stations to carry them we were indirectly being taxed to watch TV of which only 4 hours an evening are worth watching on any given major network.

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Amos is Wayne.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

scottjames30 wrote:Amos is Wayne.

affraid

waynagain

waynagain
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
Reebok Trotter wrote:He does have a point when you calculate the figures.
Cable, Satellite and Over the Air TV is going to soon be a thing of the past. With things like Apple TV, Roku, Hulu etc springing up each month, you will only need an internet connection and then be able to just pick and choose what you want to watch. I can currently watch every Prem Game and some Champioship games without having to pay. Same with Rugby. BBC does produce some excellent programmes which the License Fee pays for, but they are going to have to move with the times and either start having adverts or a subscription. The BBC News is on my TV right now and it has commercial breaks and the same with BBC America.





first point - I may have missed this in any other thread but how the hell can you write outside the quote box??????

second point - @ Waynagain - so you won't be subscribing to NBC Sports who will be showing EVERY Premier League game?
NBC is available in the USA for free over the air, just like ITV and BBC in England. My BIG concern with NBC is that they got the contract for the Olympics on the condition that they would show everything 'live' - they didn't. All the 'big' events like the 100 meter finals were actually shown via tape delay in Prime Time, my concern is that if United are playing City or Chelsea it will be on at 8pm at night and anyone who follows the Prem will already know the score. Not all games will be on NBC, some will be on Univision (the Mexican channel) - I don't 'need' to subscribe to NBC, NBC Sports or Univision as I can see any Prem game on the internet. All those stations are currently in the 'Family Package" which I currently subscribe to anyway, but If they want me to pay more for them, then I'll unsubscribe.

So do you pay a TV provider or not, such as DirecTV?  Or do you just use an aeriel?  Last time I was in the States the TV was carried by a provider and one had to pay the provider even to receive the basic 5 networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW - albeit the local affiliates which mean they don't necessarily carry the same programming as the networks in other towns and cities, except for primetime programmes for 4 hours a night).  But because we were paying a provider who then has to pay the stations to carry them we were indirectly being taxed to watch TV of which only 4 hours an evening are worth watching on any given major network.
Yes, I do currently pay for Cable, but I get at least 100 channels that I NEVER watch. My point was that there are options now to services like Sky, Virgin etc. If you have an internet connection you can pay a lot less to pick and choose what programmes you want to watch. Like I said, nobody needs cable or satellite tv to watch the major networks, they are available via an antenna, just like ITV in England. So you can watch Primetime tv for free and then you can subscribe (for a lot less money than cable or satellite) to a service like Hulu or Netflix.

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Netflix is crap.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Reebok Trotter wrote:Netflix is crap.

completely agree, one of the worst selections of films i've ever laid eyes on. (blockbuster 1£ bin is better)

and if you don't have 5mb internet forget it. Buffering.

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I have Netflix for the kids bedrooms - saves on buying DVDs and I cancelled my Sky Movies subscription as that was shite. If I want to see a new release I just download it Smile

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

BoltonTillIDie wrote: If I want to see a new release I just download it Smile

I've just grassed you up to the cops.

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I said nothing illegal there, you can download perfectly legally - Do I do that?  You'll never know Smile

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

waynagain wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
Reebok Trotter wrote:He does have a point when you calculate the figures.
Cable, Satellite and Over the Air TV is going to soon be a thing of the past. With things like Apple TV, Roku, Hulu etc springing up each month, you will only need an internet connection and then be able to just pick and choose what you want to watch. I can currently watch every Prem Game and some Champioship games without having to pay. Same with Rugby. BBC does produce some excellent programmes which the License Fee pays for, but they are going to have to move with the times and either start having adverts or a subscription. The BBC News is on my TV right now and it has commercial breaks and the same with BBC America.





first point - I may have missed this in any other thread but how the hell can you write outside the quote box??????

second point - @ Waynagain - so you won't be subscribing to NBC Sports who will be showing EVERY Premier League game?
NBC is available in the USA for free over the air, just like ITV and BBC in England. My BIG concern with NBC is that they got the contract for the Olympics on the condition that they would show everything 'live' - they didn't. All the 'big' events like the 100 meter finals were actually shown via tape delay in Prime Time, my concern is that if United are playing City or Chelsea it will be on at 8pm at night and anyone who follows the Prem will already know the score. Not all games will be on NBC, some will be on Univision (the Mexican channel) - I don't 'need' to subscribe to NBC, NBC Sports or Univision as I can see any Prem game on the internet. All those stations are currently in the 'Family Package" which I currently subscribe to anyway, but If they want me to pay more for them, then I'll unsubscribe.

So do you pay a TV provider or not, such as DirecTV?  Or do you just use an aeriel?  Last time I was in the States the TV was carried by a provider and one had to pay the provider even to receive the basic 5 networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW - albeit the local affiliates which mean they don't necessarily carry the same programming as the networks in other towns and cities, except for primetime programmes for 4 hours a night).  But because we were paying a provider who then has to pay the stations to carry them we were indirectly being taxed to watch TV of which only 4 hours an evening are worth watching on any given major network.
Yes, I do currently pay for Cable, but I get at least 100 channels that I NEVER watch. My point was that there are options now to services like Sky, Virgin etc. If you have an internet connection you can pay a lot less to pick and choose what programmes you want to watch. Like I said, nobody needs cable or satellite tv to watch the major networks, they are available via an antenna, just like ITV in England. So you can watch Primetime tv for free and then you can subscribe (for a lot less money than cable or satellite) to a service like Hulu or Netflix.

Not quite right as the whoel of the UK is now digital and none of the channels are "free" as you need a decoder of some sort from Freeview, Freesat, Sky, Virgin, BT, Youview etc etc etc which means forking out for most of them - Freeview and Freesat claim to be free but are they as Freeview is 50% owned by the BBC and Freesat is 20% owned by Sky!!!

Then, of course there are the IPTV's such as Netflix which are all subscription based and currently very peicemeal - Sky still has the majority of first-run films , whereas the TV shows are definitely classic, or shall I say old and definietely repeats. Whereas BBC's I-Player is a great tool - unlike ITV's, Skys and C4 and C5 etc where they have commercials or in some cases having to pay to watch repeats!!!

waynagain

waynagain
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:
waynagain wrote:
Reebok Trotter wrote:He does have a point when you calculate the figures.
Cable, Satellite and Over the Air TV is going to soon be a thing of the past. With things like Apple TV, Roku, Hulu etc springing up each month, you will only need an internet connection and then be able to just pick and choose what you want to watch. I can currently watch every Prem Game and some Champioship games without having to pay. Same with Rugby. BBC does produce some excellent programmes which the License Fee pays for, but they are going to have to move with the times and either start having adverts or a subscription. The BBC News is on my TV right now and it has commercial breaks and the same with BBC America.





first point - I may have missed this in any other thread but how the hell can you write outside the quote box??????

second point - @ Waynagain - so you won't be subscribing to NBC Sports who will be showing EVERY Premier League game?
NBC is available in the USA for free over the air, just like ITV and BBC in England. My BIG concern with NBC is that they got the contract for the Olympics on the condition that they would show everything 'live' - they didn't. All the 'big' events like the 100 meter finals were actually shown via tape delay in Prime Time, my concern is that if United are playing City or Chelsea it will be on at 8pm at night and anyone who follows the Prem will already know the score. Not all games will be on NBC, some will be on Univision (the Mexican channel) - I don't 'need' to subscribe to NBC, NBC Sports or Univision as I can see any Prem game on the internet. All those stations are currently in the 'Family Package" which I currently subscribe to anyway, but If they want me to pay more for them, then I'll unsubscribe.

So do you pay a TV provider or not, such as DirecTV?  Or do you just use an aeriel?  Last time I was in the States the TV was carried by a provider and one had to pay the provider even to receive the basic 5 networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW - albeit the local affiliates which mean they don't necessarily carry the same programming as the networks in other towns and cities, except for primetime programmes for 4 hours a night).  But because we were paying a provider who then has to pay the stations to carry them we were indirectly being taxed to watch TV of which only 4 hours an evening are worth watching on any given major network.
Yes, I do currently pay for Cable, but I get at least 100 channels that I NEVER watch. My point was that there are options now to services like Sky, Virgin etc. If you have an internet connection you can pay a lot less to pick and choose what programmes you want to watch. Like I said, nobody needs cable or satellite tv to watch the major networks, they are available via an antenna, just like ITV in England. So you can watch Primetime tv for free and then you can subscribe (for a lot less money than cable or satellite) to a service like Hulu or Netflix.

Not quite right as the whoel of the UK is now digital and none of the channels are "free" as you need a decoder of some sort from Freeview, Freesat, Sky, Virgin, BT, Youview etc etc etc which means forking out for most of them - Freeview and Freesat claim to be free but are they as Freeview is 50% owned by the BBC and Freesat is 20% owned by Sky!!!

Then, of course there are the IPTV's such as Netflix which are all subscription based and currently very peicemeal - Sky still has the majority of first-run films , whereas the TV shows are definitely classic, or shall I say old and definietely repeats.  Whereas BBC's I-Player is a great tool - unlike ITV's, Skys and C4 and C5 etc where they have commercials or in some cases having to pay to watch repeats!!!
Is it possible to buy a tv in England which doesn't have Freeview?
I have a TV which has Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon TV, Vudu, Crackle, Pandora, Y Sports, USA Today Sports, Roku, Apple TV, M Go all pre loaded to the TV. Some of them (Netflix is 8 dollars) have a monthly fee but some don't, my cable monthly bill is 75 dollars and I never watch most of the channels. I get the major channels for free, CBS< NBC< ABC< WPIX< FOX< PBS< NJN< and I could suppliment them with a couple of the other choices for a lot less than I'm currently paying.

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

No as Freeview or Freesat are the most basic one can have TV through, nowadays. Smart TV's have apple and Netflix, along with others, but there are no free IPTV "channels" in the UK.

Don't forget that the major Public Service Broadcasters (BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel 4/S4C, Channel 5, BBC3, BBC4, CBeebies, CBBC, BBC News Channel, BBC Parliament and BBC Alba) in the UK, are given the top slots on all platforms then come the commercials channels from the PSB Networks (such as ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, CiTV, E4, More4, Film4, 4Music, 5*, 5USA) and then the other commercial channels and networks such as Sky, UKTV, PSB America, CBS, Universal (SyFy, E!, Universal Channel), Fox, Discovery etc

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