Pre-season matches

scottjames30 wrote:Still think we're short at the back by 35%.

Reebok Trotter wrote:Carlisle away next Tuesday

bwfc1874 wrote:

scottjames30 wrote:Still think we're short at the back by 35%.

  

How did you land on 35%?

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Sad to hear of "supporters" berating players so much they feel the need to offer them outside. And you have to say, although the abuse can't be pleasant, it's not an ideal response.

As for the match, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] shows up a few interesting points...
Starting line-up sounds like 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3: "Sordell starts centrally, with Eagles and Hall either side."  

From what I understand the deal to sign Andre Moritz is off, or at the very best postponed. Club were unable to sort a deal out for him, and I'm told he has offers back home in Brazil and in China. Lots asking about potential transfers but I don't expect anything to happen soon at all. Looks like this is the squad Dougie will pick from at Turf Moor in a couple of weeks.

First goal:

Brilliant run by Hall - the first time he has got loose this afternoon, jinking past two players and into the box. The ball then fell to Sordell who lashed a great shot into the roof of the net past Chris Weale.

Equaliser:

Mistake from Wheater on the half way line allowed Taylor to scamper away down the right, and his near post cross was stabbed home by Marsden. Bit sloppy from Wanderers.

Eagles for 2-1:

Good football from Wanderers - Hall fed Pratley and he played a clever reverse pass in for Eagles to finish tidily into the bottom corner. Nice riposte from the Whites.

Sordell for 3-1:

Wow. Confident finish from Sordell. Ball sat up nicely about 30 yards out and he absolutely peppered it over the top of Chris Weale.

3-2:

Paul Parry absolute thwacks a volley past Bogdan from the edge of the box. Seconds later, he's walking down the tunnel after being substituted. Honestly don't think he'll top that again this season.

After 71 minutes (a decent run-out), Freedman replaces Sordell with Cravies, Wheater with Mills - and Andrews with Ream, an intriguing decision with midfielders Gregus and Leicester on the bench. Iles: "Ream now moving into midfield. Hard to keep track of him at the moment."

Two minutes later, it's 3-3:

Hard to know what to make of that. Knight seemed to get his boot stuck in the turf and Baptiste must have thought it was a foul because he stopped dead. Asante hustled the ball and then kept his cool to slot past Bogdan.

84 minutes: Lester replaces Pratley. Assuming the back four is Baptiste-Knight-Mills-Tierney and Cravies is up front between Hall and Eagles, that means our midfield three ended up Ream, Medo and Lester...

86 minutes

Shrewsbury definitely looking favourites to win this.

89 minutes

Cross from Hall drifts right across the face of goal. He's been one of the highlights of another so-so day for Wanderers

BWFC Bogdan, Baptiste, Knight, Wheater (Mills 71), Tierney, Andrews (Ream 71), Medo, Pratley (Lester 84), Eagles, Hall, Sordell (C Davies 71). Unusued: Lonergan, Mears, Gregus, Bolger, Odelusi

terenceanne wrote:In my heart I want to be positive. I want us to win every game starting in two weeks.  Sadly I have a brain (although some would dispute that).....  and my brain sees no improvement from last year to this. We can easily lose the next two pre-season games and then an opening away game at Burnley.  We don't have Spearing & Dawson and Holden is still away in the USA. 
Somebody will no doubt comment that it's only pre-season and it means nowt ..... and by magic in the next 14 days we will become a slick moving Prem contender......

Boggersbelief wrote:Bwfc1874 you are really impressive  a bit of a twat.

bwfc1874 wrote:

terenceanne wrote:In my heart I want to be positive. I want us to win every game starting in two weeks.  Sadly I have a brain (although some would dispute that).....  and my brain sees no improvement from last year to this. We can easily lose the next two pre-season games and then an opening away game at Burnley.  We don't have Spearing & Dawson and Holden is still away in the USA. 
Somebody will no doubt comment that it's only pre-season and it means nowt ..... and by magic in the next 14 days we will become a slick moving Prem contender......

Fair enough, but you have nothing but a couple of training matches to base your negativity on. If you haven't been impressed with the signings and feel we're significantly weaker for whatever reason then I understand why you have your doubts for next season, but our performances pre season mean very little.

What did you base your comments earlier on (Bolton were hanging on, shambles defensively, little going forward) did you have some sort of commentary stream for the match?

terenceanne wrote:I didn't say the defence was a shambles I meant to say it's not changed or might be worse until proved otherwise. Boggers had his hands stung several times and we shipped three anyhow......no disrespect but it's only the Shrews and Rotherham is barely a pub team.

To your points ..... you don't know if we are fit or not ....Rotherham and Shrews apparently are just as fit if not fitter!!!! 

bwfc1874 wrote:

terenceanne wrote:I didn't say the defence was a shambles I meant to say it's not changed or might be worse until proved otherwise. Boggers had his hands stung several times and we shipped three anyhow......no disrespect but it's only the Shrews and Rotherham is barely a pub team.

If that's what you meant about the defence then it's a fair point, without Dawson we do look weaker, but a fit Wheater and 2 solid full backs should help negate that loss. 

To your points ..... you don't know if we are fit or not ....Rotherham and Shrews apparently are just as fit if not fitter!!!! 

We were comparing us now to last season, not us to the opposition. Dougie clearly sorted out the fitness last year - my point was that's a reason to be more positive than this time last year.

I don't think Ream at left back is a strange decision at all, he's experimenting in a pre season match. Ream would suit LB quite well by his style of play; good on the ball, quick and can tackle why not give that a try?

Losing Dawson is a loss, Spearing has been replaced by Medo a more box to box partner for him would be my preference, ideally Holden but we'll see how he gets on.

So for me we're much stronger than we were last year, a competent manager, improved fitness and a better squad.

aaron_bwfc wrote:I know I have been saying it's only pre season but I am now very worried that Dougie has been here a while now and yet it still seems our defence problems have yet to be resolved.

I had hoped that I wouldn't be but I am still going into next season thinking we will concede at least 1 goal per game.

scottjames30 wrote:Real Madrid won 6-0 on their pre season match, I don't think they were just thinking 'its only pre season'.