This would be great news for a change! Let's try and bring Spearing back for our first game at Burnley. A big ask I know!BoltonTillIDie wrote:According to The Sun. USA will pay Holden's wages while he's injured and this will free up some money for Dougie to recruit Jay Spearing! A bit of good news, hope it's true.
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Should we Holdon to Holden?
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21 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 07:00
Culcheth_White
Andy Walker
22 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 07:14
JAH
Tony Kelly
If the US will pay his wages it's great news for a club like us! He'll be out for 6 months. Might even figure in our run in. What a fairy tale it will be to come back from injury and help us reach the Prem. I would want him to retire from internationals tho if he wants a new contract the following season.
23 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 07:37
Triumph
Tony Kelly
Look at it another way, If you were poorly how would you feel if your boss sacked you?
24 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 08:05
Culcheth_White
Andy Walker
Good point, it wouldn't make us the most attractive club to sign for either.Triumph wrote:Look at it another way, If you were poorly how would you feel if your boss sacked you?
25 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 08:43
scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
He'll only get injured again , he was once a top player but his body can't take it anymore, i'd see what the medical people say before making any decisions .
26 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 08:46
Jamster26
Tony Kelly
This must be where the unexpected cash has come from.
27 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 11:31
terenceanne
El Hadji Diouf
BoltonTillIDie wrote:According to The Sun. USA will pay Holden's wages while he's injured and this will free up some money for Dougie to recruit Jay Spearing! A bit of good news, hope it's true.
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That would be grand news if true ..... I have never heard of a case like that. So if Rooney gets injured playing for England the FA would pay his wages..... sounds to good to be true. But the USA is diferent of course...money no object.
28 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 12:26
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
It's a strange arrangement but I assume both the club and the USA Association are obliged to take out insurance so one or the other will pay - not the club. Which is why he should remain on the books.
29 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 15:18
aaron_bwfc
Moderator
Sorry but this is madness:-
Stuart Holden will sign a new one-year deal with Bolton this week, after receiving assurances over his future from Wanderers bosses.
Trotters chairman Phil Gartside has reportedly spoken to Holden and the club look set to honour a signed agreement, meaning the player will spend at least another 12 months at the Reebok Stadium.
Stuart Holden will sign a new one-year deal with Bolton this week, after receiving assurances over his future from Wanderers bosses.
Trotters chairman Phil Gartside has reportedly spoken to Holden and the club look set to honour a signed agreement, meaning the player will spend at least another 12 months at the Reebok Stadium.
30 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 15:24
Jamster26
Tony Kelly
Atleast we're not paying for the wages!
31 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 15:26
Guest
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aaron_bwfc wrote:Sorry but this is madness:-
Stuart Holden will sign a new one-year deal with Bolton this week, after receiving assurances over his future from Wanderers bosses.
Trotters chairman Phil Gartside has reportedly spoken to Holden and the club look set to honour a signed agreement, meaning the player will spend at least another 12 months at the Reebok Stadium.
'the club look set to honour a signed agreement,' If something's been signed and we backed out, Holden would probably have a case for 'breach of contract' or something to that effect, plus if the USA are subsidising his wages then our losses are minimal.
If the shoe was on the other foot and Holden hasn't got injured, and then decided to back out of the agreement and sign for another club we'd be moaning about a lack of loyalty. Works both ways for me, had the club not made any sort of agreement to sign him before the injury I'd have no problem with backing out now. As it is I think it's only right they honour it.
Obviously I've no idea, but I do wonder whether Coye's medical staff are partly to blame for bringing him back against Villa too early. He had another 18 months out after that, was his rehab mishandled by the club?
32 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 16:09
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
aaron_bwfc wrote:Sorry but this is madness:-
Stuart Holden will sign a new one-year deal with Bolton this week, after receiving assurances over his future from Wanderers bosses.
Trotters chairman Phil Gartside has reportedly spoken to Holden and the club look set to honour a signed agreement, meaning the player will spend at least another 12 months at the Reebok Stadium.
I really don't see what the problem is Aaron.
He's costing nothing so it's not as if our money is being tied up by Holden as being the reason we can't afford other players.
He'll be a great free ambassador for the club anyway and if he ever does get back to playing he'll be as loyal as they come.
33 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 16:33
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
He will be costing us something, i don't see any conformation that USA will pay his whole wage or even any of it.
I would have thought they would be covering his treatment costs and the like but to pay his contract seems very unusual.
I would have thought they would be covering his treatment costs and the like but to pay his contract seems very unusual.
34 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 16:35
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Hipster_Nebula wrote:He will be costing us something, i don't see any conformation that USA will pay his whole wage or even any of it.
I would have thought they would be covering his treatment costs and the like but to pay his contract seems very unusual.
I would be gobsmacked if the club hadn't got every player insured up to the eyeballs.
35 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 18:48
Triumph
Tony Kelly
He will have his own insurance I would have thought.
36 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 18:54
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
You're all deluded if you think this is costing BWFC nothing.
Any other club would have walked away from this, we owe the player nothing - we've pissed away millions on his wages already. It's players like Holden and Sean Davis that are half the reason we are so much in debt.
Any other club would have walked away from this, we owe the player nothing - we've pissed away millions on his wages already. It's players like Holden and Sean Davis that are half the reason we are so much in debt.
37 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 19:25
doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Natasha Whittam wrote:It's players like Holden and Sean Davis that are half the reason we are so much in debt.
I don't think it's fair to put Davis and Holden in the same bracket.
We'd have gone down a year earlier without Holden. He was phenomenal when fit and will have been on a pittance for a while.
Davis was on £30,000 a week for three years, played three matches and wouldn't have been that good if he was fit.
38 Re: Should we Holdon to Holden? Wed Jul 31 2013, 19:26
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
They are both the same - injury prone players who took a shit load of money from us.
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