Can I go first, oh cheers.
Owen Coyle.
Owen Coyle.
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I'll give you the last 3, but Holloway has done well to be fair to him, and he's never had big money.kennster wrote:
Ian Holloway, Neil Warnock, Sven, Chris Coleman
Holloway has had a LOT more sucess than Freedman, so why isn't Freedman on your list?kennster wrote:Hodgson is a very good manager.
Ian Holloway, Neil Warnock, Sven, Chris Coleman
But Holloway has only been really successful at Blackpool, anywhere else he's been mediocre.waynagain wrote:Holloway has had a LOT more sucess than Freedman, so why isn't Freedman on your list?kennster wrote:Hodgson is a very good manager.
Ian Holloway, Neil Warnock, Sven, Chris Coleman
Then you should put Rioch into your list, because he was only successful at Bolton.kennster wrote:But Holloway has only been really successful at Blackpool, anywhere else he's been mediocre.waynagain wrote:Holloway has had a LOT more sucess than Freedman, so why isn't Freedman on your list?kennster wrote:Hodgson is a very good manager.
Ian Holloway, Neil Warnock, Sven, Chris Coleman
Dougie re-built Palace after administration into a good side, when you look at the work Dougie has done you have to consider what sort of position Palace where in.
I wasn't saying he's crap just overrated, average at best really. I'll give you Bristol Rovers as a good job, but the rest of what you've said just supports what I'm saying.Natasha Whittam wrote:This is a thread about crap managers who keep getting jobs, not average managers who keep getting jobs.
Holloway started at Bristol Rovers in the relegation zone and kept them up. He then lead them to 7th and a 5th place play-off place. All after having to sell half the first team and having no cash or even a ground to call their own. Can't really call that crap can you.
He went to QPR, who were in the bottom 3 at the time, but couldn't keep them up. Two seasons later he got them promoted back to the Championship, then steadied the ship and kept them mid-table in that division.
He then went to Plymouth and kept them in the Championship for two seasons (no mean feat) before attracting the interests of Leicester. Incidentally it should be noted that Plymouth have been a disaster since he left.
Leicester, even by his own admission, was a disaster.
No one can say he didn't do a good job at Blackpool. Took them from Championship fodder to the Premier League. And while he couldn't keep them up, they did play some good attacking football and plenty of good managers have been relegated from the PL.
Not a great manager, but on limited budgets he's got the best out of average players while managing to play entertaining football.
He's better than average. He did great things keeping Plymouth in the Championship for two seasons, ditto getting Blackpool into the PL.bwfc1874 wrote:
I wasn't saying he's crap just overrated, average at best really. I'll give you Bristol Rovers as a good job, but the rest of what you've said just supports what I'm saying.
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