Douglas uses a good system with shit players.
Who Should Be Our Next Manager?
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doffcocker
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Who would be your choice for next Bolton manager?
82 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Tue Feb 11 2014, 18:27
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Boggersbelief wrote:Douglas uses a good system with shit players.
PM me for tips on WUMing. I used to be the master before I went straight.
83 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Tue Feb 11 2014, 18:28
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Can you stop accusing me of being a wum
84 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 18:17
observer
Andy Walker
For those who voted for Malky Mackay:
Cardiff City have criticised the transfer policy of former boss Malky Mackay and his management team, claiming it cost the club millions of pounds.
A statement released by Bluebirds chief executive Simon Lim says the club lost "in excess of £8.5m" on the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Lim says "key shareholders" believe the loss is due to "imprudent and careless management" by the then management.
Obviously if he could lose that kind of money, he would be most welcome at Bolton... since that would be the lowest loss we have shown in years. Welcome aboard!
Cardiff City have criticised the transfer policy of former boss Malky Mackay and his management team, claiming it cost the club millions of pounds.
A statement released by Bluebirds chief executive Simon Lim says the club lost "in excess of £8.5m" on the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Lim says "key shareholders" believe the loss is due to "imprudent and careless management" by the then management.
Obviously if he could lose that kind of money, he would be most welcome at Bolton... since that would be the lowest loss we have shown in years. Welcome aboard!
85 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 18:35
doffcocker
Ivan Campo
The only notable job Mackay has done is identical to what Coyle did at Burnley, yet some people think he'd be a hell of a catch.
It's like a manager's only as good as the last job he did.
It's like a manager's only as good as the last job he did.
86 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 20:02
Whitesince63
El Hadji Diouf
doffcocker wrote:The only notable job Mackay has done is identical to what Coyle did at Burnley, yet some people think he'd be a hell of a catch.
It's like a manager's only as good as the last job he did.
That's true DC and by all accounts the football at Cardiff last year was about as bad as ours is and even his signings, like Coyle's were overpriced and average. There are a lot of similarities and I certainly wouldn't want McKay here for sure when DF eventually gets shown the door. Soon hopefully.
87 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 20:19
MartinBWFC
Ivan Campo
Who'd have Bruce Rioch and Colin Todd back at the helm?
88 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 20:38
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
doffcocker wrote:The only notable job Mackay has done is identical to what Coyle did at Burnley, yet some people think he'd be a hell of a catch.
It's like a manager's only as good as the last job he did.
Wasn't your pick Steve Clark?
89 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 21:11
JAH
Tony Kelly
I hate your avatar Hipster! Its plain fucking ugly and reminds me of how fucked we currently are!!!!!!
90 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 21:18
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
JAH wrote:I hate your avatar Hipster! Its plain fucking ugly and reminds me of how fucked we currently are!!!!!!
Are you a Dundee Utd fan?
91 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 22:01
doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Hipster_Nebula wrote:doffcocker wrote:The only notable job Mackay has done is identical to what Coyle did at Burnley, yet some people think he'd be a hell of a catch.
It's like a manager's only as good as the last job he did.
Wasn't your pick Steve Clark?
No.
92 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Thu Feb 13 2014, 23:04
Whitesince63
El Hadji Diouf
MartinBWFC wrote:Who'd have Bruce Rioch and Colin Todd back at the helm?
Toddy in full charge tomorrow for me or Brucie as a mentor with someone younger.
93 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Fri Feb 14 2014, 11:55
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Yet again sentiment clouding judgement IMO.
94 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Fri Feb 14 2014, 12:17
luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
For once I have to agree with Hipster. I don't know if our reasoning is the same but here's mine.Hipster_Nebula wrote:Yet again sentiment clouding judgement IMO.
Managers rarely if ever do as well second time around with a club they had success with in the past. Howard Kendall at Everton and Kevin Keegan at Newcastle and Joe Royle at Oldham Athletic spring to mind as does Harry Redknapp at Portsmouth.
It's for this reason I wouldn't have Sam Allardyce back even if he was available. When a manager or player has done very well for a club then moved on I think it's best for both sides to simply enjoy the memory and thank each other.
In the case of Rioch and Todd I think it's also essential to note that we are a very different club to the one they managed, not just the ground has changed. The mindset and approach to the game itself has changed a great deal, we don't have the sort of finances needed to rebuild the way we all seem to think is necessary. The bond between club and fans has been badly fractured if not severed altogether and the players are basically overpaid, underachieving and unmotivated to a frightening degree after being mismanaged by Freedman (and Coyle before him) so badly that they have fallen into a spiral of expecting defeat and losing any confidence they have at the first sign of a setback.
What is needed isn't a pair of rose tinted glasses but a cold clear eyed look at reality. A manager who has the strength to admit when his idea hasn't worked and is willing to change approach until he finds the one that does. A manager who can adapt to the opposition and set up a system that plays to our strengths rather than theirs and who doesn't reward failure by keeping players on the pitch who are clearly either not good enough or in bad form.
We need a completely fresh set of eyes, someone who can see clearly what needs to be done and has the intelligence and the strength of will to do it. We apparently have a whole bunch of talented kids that spend most of their lives either warming a bench or playing with the "development squad" (from which nothing ever actually seems to develop) because our current manager says they're not experienced enough but how will they gain that unless they play?
While I have no doubt that Freedman is the wrong man for the job I am absolutely certain he will be our manager next season. Gartside simply dare not pick another lemon after selecting four on the trot.
I feel that there is one person who needs to be replaced even more than Dougie and that's Phil Gartside.
None of our former managers would recognise the club now and frankly I feel we need to move forwards not back.
95 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Fri Feb 14 2014, 12:33
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
The Queen should be our next manager. We'll get no bullshit from the media and she can throw a few bob in to buy some quality players. Plus with her racing knowledge she'd recognise a donkey a mile away.
96 Re: Who Should Be Our Next Manager? Fri Feb 14 2014, 13:23
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
wanderlust wrote:The Queen should be our next manager. We'll get no bullshit from the media and she can throw a few bob in to buy some quality players. Plus with her racing knowledge she'd recognise a donkey a mile away.
I agree and if they took the piss and didn't play well then she could say "off with their heads"
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