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1Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Wed Jul 16 2014, 16:38

Sluffy

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Ok before we start an emotive subject so we don't want to take things to extremes.

The reason I start this thread is that peadophiles seem now to be constantly in the news - just today 660 arrests have been made including would you believe, doctors, teachers and police.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28326128

We've had the on going fall out from Jimmy Saville and the improsonment of Rolf and Stuart Hall.

We've had the Pope even admitting that 1 in 50 of the catholic clergy are paedos.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28282050

We've had the Government apparently do a cover up over top ranking members of government from being outed as paedos

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28125537

We've had Cyril Smith being outed as one.

We had the pop star apparently trying to shag babies, where women seem to be offering up their babies to him - wtf?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25412675

We even had a high profile pressure group in the 1970's called the Paedophile Information Exchange, lobbying publically to drop the age of sexual consent, and which involved later to become high ranking government ministers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26333558


So where the hell are they all coming from?

Now I get we all are not wired up the same but in the article on the Pope this is stated -

"While the incidence of paedophilia as a psychiatric disorder in the general population is not accurately known, some estimates have put it at less than five percent".

Now the way I read that is that 'others' must rate it at OVER 5%.

I'm assuming this is from experts in the field, not Fred down the local pub - so let us for arguements sake say 5% is an average - that means 1 in 20 people alive are kiddy fiddlers - that can't be right can it, or have I been living in some sort of parallel universe all this time?

What the hell is happening, what can be done to stop it?

Is this just the tip of the iceberg?

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
They can say what they like about kiddy fiddlers but at least they drive slowly past schools.

Sluffy

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@Reebok Trotter wrote:They can say what they like about kiddy fiddlers but at least they drive slowly past schools.

 :biggrin: 

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I think they've always been there, it's just in sharper focus nowadays because of the 24 hour media / internet world we live in.

It's easy for them to access this type of thing on the "Deep Web" which didn't exist 30 years ago, so back then your average Percey Ponce: The Dandy Nonce couldn't indulge his "passion" like he can now.

And let's not forget that "Childrens' Rights" used to mean that you could only shove them up chimneys six days a week and they got Sundays off - There was no Childline and if a child complained that they'd been interfered with by a grown-up, they'd have got a slap and been told to stop being ridiculous.

The world's changed and it's easier to spot 'em nowadays.

Thankfully.



Last edited by Breadman on Wed Jul 16 2014, 20:49; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Spelling like Magoo)

bwfc71

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Ivan Campo
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Agree with what Breadman says!

Guest


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@bwfc71 wrote:Agree with what Breadman says!

You grooming me?

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The scary thing is,most of the bastards are professional people in positions of power. They aint yer dirty mac brigade.

Sluffy

Sluffy
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1 in 20 people a nonce though!?

Surely that can't be right can it?

Although looking at stats on wiki - I know but it is reporting actual surveys done - suggest about the same percentage of people (5%) or 1 in 20 are gay or have had gay sex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

I'm guessing it probably is the same chance to be wired up to find an hairy arsed bloke sexy as it is to find a child so.

A lot of sick bastards out there though then.

Still 1 in 20. The chances are that we all probably know at least one in real life (obviously not about their kiddie fiddling though).

Guest


Guest
I worked with one in Westhoughton a few years back.

He raped a girl at knifepoint in Tyldesley and told her mate he'd kill them both if they told anybody.

Whilst the police appeals for information were being broadcast on the news on Key 103 over the shopfloor radio and the women on the line were all saying how terrible it was, he was just quietly getting on with his job and agreeing with them.

His Mum saw an e-fit of the attacker on the news and handed him in to the local plod because she'd always had concerns about him.

You never know who you're working with....

10Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Wed Jul 16 2014, 21:44

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Dateline NBC.. How to trap a Predator was a wake up call for America.. Cops, Rabbi's, Doctors etc etc. They come from all walks of life and many of them were parents.I don't know if anyone has seen it but they basically entrap men on the internet by posing as underage girls. Some of the perps are seriously spooky.

11Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:07

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
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Breadman wrote:
@bwfc71 wrote:Agree with what Breadman says!

You grooming me?

That would be telling, Bready.....

But saying that and what Sluffy said I know that I and few of my mates know one paedophile!  He was our scout leader at Bromley Cross and his name id David Patterson (easily accessible to read on the net).  His crimes went as young as a 5 year old and guess what - he escaped a prison sentence!!!!

12Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:17

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Dib Dib.

13Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:20

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
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He's a disgrace to his woggle.

14Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:21

Sluffy

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I was a bit wary about namimg people but as 'Dutchy' says the man and his crimes are in the public domain -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-20343589

15Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:27

boltonbonce

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16Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:35

Guest


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If we're naming names, this is the twat I was talking about.

He topped himself in HMP Wakefield.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/man-who-raped-girl-12-1124387

17Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:42

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We also had a teacher at Smithills called Howard Holt who got banged up for being a paedo in the late 80's.gh

He was in charge of the First XI football team and he always got changed with us instead of using the teachers' changing room.

We saw him in the Three Crowns some years later and he was with a scruffy looking lad who looked about 15, so he'd obviously not learnt his lesson.

Not proud of it now, but yes, he did get a smack from one of our party when he went for a wee.

18Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:49

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We had a teacher at our primary school who took the whole class to Farnworth baths every week. Learning to swim was high on the agenda then.
But he often came into the changing rooms afterwards asking if he could dry our legs for us! At the time we didn't give it much thought,but looking back it seems seriously pervy. How innocent we were!

19Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:58

Sluffy

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But didn't you think it a bit odd him wanting to rub your legs - you being the bus driver who drove them all there?

20Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 20:59

boltonbonce

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Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy

21Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 21:01

Keegan

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lol! 

https://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

22Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 21:05

Reebok Trotter

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If they have been named in the press then they are fair game as far as I am concerned.

23Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Thu Jul 17 2014, 21:07

bwfc71

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Ivan Campo
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@Reebok Trotter wrote:If they have been named in the press then they are fair game as far as I am concerned.

Agreed!

For most criminals I would often give a second chance no matter how heinous their crime but when it involves children - they should be castrated to begin with and never be forgiven for their crimes!

24Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Fri Jul 18 2014, 09:34

wanderlust


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@bwfc71 wrote:
Breadman wrote:
@bwfc71 wrote:Agree with what Breadman says!

You grooming me?

That would be telling, Bready.....

But saying that and what Sluffy said I know that I and few of my mates know one paedophile!  He was our scout leader at Bromley Cross and his name id David Patterson (easily accessible to read on the net).  His crimes went as young as a 5 year old and guess what - he escaped a prison sentence!!!!
Was that Eagley Scouts which used to be at Eagley Mills (which was the only Scout Troop in BX when I was young) ?

25Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Fri Jul 18 2014, 19:25

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
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Nope.  It was (and I still think it is still) based at St Johns School on Higher Ridings.


It could possibly be the same group, just moved.

26Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Fri Jul 18 2014, 20:58

Norpig

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Breadman wrote:We also had a teacher at Smithills called Howard Holt who got banged up for being a paedo in the late 80's.gh

He was in charge of the First XI football team and he always got changed with us instead of using the teachers' changing room.

We saw him in the Three Crowns some years later and he was with a scruffy looking lad who looked about 15, so he'd obviously not learnt his lesson.

Not proud of it now, but yes, he did get a smack from one of our party when he went for a wee.
i remember him Breaders, he lived on Albert Road in Heaton, didn't he get caught buying child porn mags from abroad?

27Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Sat Jul 19 2014, 12:52

Guest


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Yeah, that's right. I remember it now.

He'd taken the team on a European tour to Holland or Germany and came back with a bag full of kiddy porn and that's how they busted him.

Wanker!

Do you remember Langtree the big fat, smelly Chemistry teacher?

There was something not right about him too, if you ask me.

28Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Sat Jul 19 2014, 19:01

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
There have always been nonces. If Maurice Chevalier was alive today then I reckon he would most certainly have had his collar felt.

29Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Sat Jul 19 2014, 19:59

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@Reebok Trotter wrote:There have always been nonces. If Maurice Chevalier was alive today then I reckon he would most certainly have had his collar felt.
To be fair to him, the line does go on to say "Cos little girls get bigger every day."

I think he was only a half-paedo - he spotted 'em when they were little, but didn't accost them until they got older......maybe.

I can't believe I'm wasting brain cells on this..... Very Happy

30Nonces, where are they all coming from? Empty Re: Nonces, where are they all coming from? on Sun Jul 20 2014, 09:58

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Breadman wrote:Yeah, that's right. I remember it now.

He'd taken the team on a European tour to Holland or Germany and came back with a bag full of kiddy porn and that's how they busted him.

Wanker!

Do you remember Langtree the big fat, smelly Chemistry teacher?

There was something not right about him too, if you ask me.
 yes i remember him , didn't he get suspended for holding a lads head inside one of the fume cupboards!

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