Migrant crisis in the Channel

Norpig wrote:i may start taking bets on when the plug gets pulled again 

Natasha Whittam wrote:

First chance Mrs Pig gets.

Whitesince63 wrote:Thanks for unlocking, this is arguably the most important thread open at the moment and certainly the most contentious. For me there are two areas that need resolving. Firstly, I just find it hard to believe that two major world powers like Uk and France, with all their intelligence resources, can’t identify and eliminate, the people smuggling gangs. It’s time we forgot about the PC brigade with scum like like them and took whatever measures were necessary to break them. 

Secondly, it’s time that the French stopped the showboating on this and held serious discussions with the UK on both preventing and agreeing what to do with migrants when they do arrive here. Clearly the French don’t want these individuals any more than we do and are just glad to see the back of them, that’s clear with their police physically turning a blind eye to them just yards away on the beach. We know Macrons in election mode so it’s in his interest to act tough for his home audience but more deaths might just work against him.

Also, it’s clear that many, if not most, of the migrants arriving here currently are in fact Algerian and I’m not aware of any threat to their lives there, so basically they are not refugees but financial migrants and should not be given any refuge here but returned immediately. In fact they don’t have any right to refugee status in the EU either, so why are they allowing them in. At this moment however, with winter coming on, the most important thing is their safety and for France and the EU themselves to even allow these people to risk their lives crossing the channel without doing everything to prevent it is a total disgrace but sadly only normal for these self interested individuals.

T.R.O.Y. wrote:If you could see evidence that the majority of these people have legitimate claims would that change your perspective at all White?

T.R.O.Y. wrote:Where is it you get your information from whites?

T.R.O.Y. wrote:Ye I think this is the point, pretty much everything you have said on Brexit and the Migrant Crisis is false. Where’s the information on the migrants being Algerian come from for example? Or that the fiancé was an illegal immigrant?

Whitesince63 wrote:

I don’t though, just accept the media fed rubbish spouted by the woke and left leaning organisations like BBC, Sky and Chanel 4

Whitesince63 wrote:

Where do you get yours Troy?

I don’t though, just accept the media fed rubbish spouted by the woke and left leaning organisations like BBC, Sky and Chanel 4, who seem economical on facts which don’t meet their own view.

okocha wrote:If anybody wants to criticise our modern world and its reporting standards, it's our appalling press (eg, Sun, Express, Mail, People and even the D. Telegraph these days) we should concentrate on. It tends to be obsessed with trivia, bias, celebrity, sensationalism, their vested interests, hostility and persecution.

 They lead society in a largely warped direction, where honesty, integrity and principles count for little.
Our planet deserves better.

wanderlust wrote: I think the sea change in reporting standards happened when the media stopped calling out the lies that politicians tell and it's now become almost acceptable in some quarters to tell a barefaced lie without media - and thereby public - sanctions.

There was a time when the likes of Hancock, Johnson, Patel etc would have faced a media-led public outcry which would have inevitably led to their resignations and indeed sanctions from their own party e.g. removal of the whip.

Now it seems that the Government is prepared to sanction the media for not letting them control the narrative - a tactic taken to a new level by Trump and adopted here.

As a result there is a fair chunk of the public who totally accept that they are being lied to as long as they hear what they want to hear.

T.R.O.Y. wrote:So the press would have to ignore all stories that negatively impact the government for you to accept Lusts point? Why do you try and oversimplify everything in to extremities?

Look up Nadine Dorries tweets to Laura K of the BBC for evidence of the pressure this government are putting out there. And before you blab on with ‘every government do this’ - they don’t in this country.

okocha wrote:
Being woke is something to be proud of. 

I think it's wonderful that young people, our future, are nowadays so much more aware of, and better informed about, important global, political and cultural issues, especially those involving marginalised communities.

It does no one any credit to denigrate the progress made towards this greater knowledge and involvement in society and the chance to make the world a better, fairer, more civilised one than that which previous generations have led us to.

Norpig wrote:
Now i know who the one viewer of GB news is 

T.R.O.Y. wrote:Okay, let’s test your theory then. Post your sources of Algerian migrants being the majority coming here and the illegal immigrant fiancé.