Play offs - 2nd Leg Bolton 2-3 Barnsley 1st Leg Barnsley 1-3 Bolton

boltonbonce wrote:

Sluffy wrote:They were nearly crying when we were two nil down and the ref gave a penalty against us.  I told them they would miss it and we would end up winning.  

Bloody hell Sluffy, can't you get ANYTHING wrong!

Cheeky!

I got extremely lucky with this one.

You obviously don't want to see your love ones upset and the kids were all still at school back then and I had to say something to give them hope, so I said the only thing I could even though I didn't much think it would happen that way.

You do have a point though, even my own daughter says I'm never wrong - I've since said a few things that I knew was wrong, in order to get that notion out of her head - because its important (at least to me) that she thinks for herself and not religiously take anyone (even me) to be right without question, every time.

And fwiw, I generally only make statements on the stuff I know about and I'm usually are saying them to self obsessed know it all's (Wanderlust and Bob come to mind) who generally know nothing about the subject that I have spent a career doing - for instance Wanderlust hilarious claim to know how government works by his experience in working at a NON GOVERNMENT Organisation.

Surely basic common sense would suggest in such cases my lifetime experience and knowledge would be more likely to be nearer the mark than someone's preconceived bias and dislike of one of the horses in a two horse race (Wanderlust hatred of all things Tory and Bob's opinion of government cover ups).

Often it really isn't about me being proved right and more about their complete lack of understanding as to how the system actually works.

I don't doubt Wanderlust and Bob are knowledgeable in their own specialised fields of a restaurateur and accountancy respectively so I wouldn't dream to tell them how their jobs should operate, yet they seem to believe they know how mine should work and refuse to listen to me when I tell them they are wrong!

And to evidence that no smoking gun has been found about the awarding of PPE contracts to Tory cronies after FOR YEARS now and the Sue Gray report wasn't a whitewash but ended up brining the police in and playing a large part towards Boris exit from Parliament.

Choose your battles wisely, as they say.

Sluffy wrote:

Cheeky!

I got extremely lucky with this one.

You obviously don't want to see your love ones upset and the kids were all still at school back then and I had to say something to give them hope, so I said the only thing I could even though I didn't much think it would happen that way.

You do have a point though, even my own daughter says I'm never wrong - I've since said a few things that I knew was wrong, in order to get that notion out of her head - because its important (at least to me) that she thinks for herself and not religiously take anyone (even me) to be right without question, every time.

And fwiw, I generally only make statements on the stuff I know about and I'm usually are saying them to self obsessed know it all's (Wanderlust and Bob come to mind) who generally know nothing about the subject that I have spent a career doing - for instance Wanderlust hilarious claim to know how government works by his experience in working at a NON GOVERNMENT Organisation.

Surely basic common sense would suggest in such cases my lifetime experience and knowledge would be more likely to be nearer the mark than someone's preconceived bias and dislike of one of the horses in a two horse race (Wanderlust hatred of all things Tory and Bob's opinion of government cover ups).

Often it really isn't about me being proved right and more about their complete lack of understanding as to how the system actually works.

I don't doubt Wanderlust and Bob are knowledgeable in their own specialised fields of a restaurateur and accountancy respectively so I wouldn't dream to tell them how their jobs should operate, yet they seem to believe they know how mine should work and refuse to listen to me when I tell them they are wrong!

And to evidence that no smoking gun has been found about the awarding of PPE contracts to Tory cronies after FOR YEARS now and the Sue Gray report wasn't a whitewash but ended up brining the police in and playing a large part towards Boris exit from Parliament.

Choose your battles wisely, as they say.

I think I only really started believing when Coyle scored.  But I'll never forget how I felt when that penalty was awarded, nor the elation when it was saved.

I actually had to turn the TV off for the stoppage time. 

We better not take oxford lightly. We really did play very poorly against Barnsley second half.

Sluffy wrote:
And fwiw, I generally only make statements on the stuff I know about and I'm usually are saying them to self obsessed know it all's (Wanderlust and Bob come to mind) who generally know nothing about the subject that I have spent a career doing - for instance Wanderlust hilarious claim to know how government works by his experience in working at a NON GOVERNMENT Organisation.

Incredible
Talking about a football game and you couldn't help yourself from dragging this old chestnut up. And conveniently failing to mention that you actually worked for a local council (which you big up by calling it "government") whereas I ran projects for and was paid by the actual government. I bet you've never been in meetings in Westminster or even Departmental HQs or advised government committees. But hey - you just carry on dragging that grudge around with you and maybe one day it will eventually salve your massive inferiority complex
Or you could just grow up, but I'm not banking on it.

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:
And fwiw, I generally only make statements on the stuff I know about and I'm usually are saying them to self obsessed know it all's (Wanderlust and Bob come to mind) who generally know nothing about the subject that I have spent a career doing - for instance Wanderlust hilarious claim to know how government works by his experience in working at a NON GOVERNMENT Organisation.

Incredible
Talking about a football game and you couldn't help yourself from dragging this old chestnut up. And conveniently failing to mention that you actually worked for a local council (which you big up by calling it "government") whereas I ran projects for and was paid by the actual government. I bet you've never been in meetings in Westminster or even Departmental HQs or advised government committees. But hey - you just carry on dragging that grudge around with you and maybe one day it will eventually salve your massive inferiority complex
Or you could just grow up, but I'm not banking on it.

Hahahaha...

You do crack me up!

No, I wasn't talking about a football match, I was replying to a good natured joke Bonce made against me.

And once again you display your total ignorance to the whole class - yes I did work in a number of Town Halls and this is classified as being employed in Local GOVERNMENT you absolute muppet!

Local Government
noun

The administration of a particular county or district, with representatives elected by those who live there.

You freely admit to working at a NGO (Non Government Organisation), now shall we see what the definition of that is...

NGO
noun

A non-profit organisation that operates independently OF ANY  GOVERNMENT, typically one whose purpose is to address a social or political issue.

The term as it is used today was first introduced in Article 71 of the newly formed United Nations' Charter in 1945.[11] While there is no fixed or formal definition for what NGOs are, they are generally defined as nonprofit entities that are independent of governmental influence—although they may receive government funding.

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(So being somewhat pedantic, you WERE NOT "paid by the actual government" but rather the NGO you were working for was granted 'funding' from the public purse, and you were in fact "paid" by the NGO you worked for - and not the government as you claimed - as your payslip would have shown you to be the case!).


In Janet and John speak, NGO's are basically pressure groups that attempt to sway government policy.

I found this which may give people an idea of what sort of things they are and do -

The Biggest 15 NGOs in the UK

“NGO” stands for “nongovernmental organisation.” The United Nations Charter, written in 1945, was the first document to include the term. While vague, the text established NGOs as non-profit groups independent from governments. Today, the term NGO has an even more flexible meaning, but nongovernmental organisations play a vital role in today’s world. They’re dedicated to causes like fighting poverty, achieving gender equality, preserving natural habitats and much more. In this article, we’ll describe 15 of the biggest NGOs in the UK, which is home to some of the world’s oldest and largest charities.

# Organisation
1 Amnesty International
2 Anti-Slavery International
3 British Heart Foundation
4 British Red Cross
5 ChildHope
6 Equal Rights Trust
7 Macmillan Cancer Support
8 National Alliance of Women’s Organisations
9 Oxfam UK
10 Save the Children
11 SolarAid
12 The Aegis Trust
13 The Refugee Council
14 WaterAid
15 The World Wide Fund for Nature

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Yes you are right I've never done the things you list at 'Central' Government Level but I've done all the same (and much more) at Local Government level.  Fwiw I've even had dealings with various NGOs too!

I've spent my entire career doing so.

Can you say the same?

And as for talking about complexes I suggest you look to yourself first -

Napoleon complex
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Kia ora.