Yet another Religious atrocity

MartinBWFC wrote:Having worked in Tunisia I cannot think anything other than poverty is turning these young mans heads towards this evil.

Tunisians in general are a happy go lucky race, and will give you their last crumb, I have a lot of Tunisian friends, all of which are appalled at this atrocity, not just for their jobs, but because they are a proud and peaceful bunch, the fear now is, that if as will most likely happen, tourism stops, more youngsters will be drawn into IS to stave off poverty.

Barb Dwyer wrote:Isn't that where Luke Skywalker grew up?

Banks of the Croal wrote:Not really up on Star Wars but I dont remember the tour guide mentioning him.

I do remember some of  the people showing and being proud of the Medals they got for fighting The Germans  in WW11.

Sluffy wrote:

God / Allah / Jehovah, simply does not exist.

There is no heaven above us, nor hell below.

The sooner people finally grasp that religion of any sort was created by man to control his fellow man, the sooner we can move away from all this insanity of killing people simply because they don't support the 'same team' as they do.

Sluffy wrote:

God / Allah / Jehovah, simply does not exist.

There is no heaven above us, nor hell below.

The sooner people finally grasp that religion of any sort was created by man to control his fellow man, the sooner we can move away from all this insanity of killing people simply because they don't support the 'same team' as they do.

wanderlust wrote:Having flogged this subject to death and reiterated my view that the issues are socio-cultural rather than religious I think we need to discuss virgins and the role of sex in the recruitment of extremists.

The other day, a British Muslim observer commented that she thought that young British men were attracted to the IS cause by sexual power. She said that most of the thousand or so male Brits that have gone off to die in Syria were sexually inadequate/unattractive/uncomfortable with little or no chance of getting their end away for one reason or another however they felt (in her opinion) that if they brandished a Kalishnikov and ran around blowing stuff up it would turn them into objects of desire and females would be queuing up to marry them.

That, in conjunction with the stories coming out about IS officers taking female Kurd prisoners as sex slaves and sexual favours being used as an incentive to cajole young men into action implies to me that nookie (or rather sexual dominance of unwilling partners) is perhaps playing a bigger role than anything else in giving IS momentum.

Which brings me to the question of virgins.
Culturally, many nations impose virginity on females and denegrate - even murder them if they consider having sex out of wedlock. Young males are encouraged to marry a virgin. At the same time a blind eye is turned to their own promiscuity. Must be confusing for everyone involved and the mathematics are dubious. The promise of virgins for suicide bombers obviously has a few inherent logical problems but my point relates to the idea of using sex with virgins as an incentive.
In my experience it's seldom as good as making love to a woman who knows what she's doing and it's only natural for a virgin to feel some tension and potentially discomfort (depending on whether the hymen was previously broken) so IMO a virgin doesn't bode well for rampant free-loving sex first time out.

If the suicide bombers knew anything about female sexuality, surely they should be incentivised by 50 slappers instead? Or maybe the Brits could send over a special task force of hookers to show them the error of their ways?

In my experience it's seldom as good as making love to a woman who knows what she's doing and it's only natural for a virgin to feel some tension and potentially discomfort (depending on whether the hymen was previously broken) so IMO a virgin doesn't bode well for rampant free-loving sex first time out.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

In my experience it's seldom as good as making love to a woman who knows what she's doing and it's only natural for a virgin to feel some tension and potentially discomfort (depending on whether the hymen was previously broken) so IMO a virgin doesn't bode well for rampant free-loving sex first time out.

wanderlust wrote: but my point relates to the idea of using sex with virgins as an incentive.
In my experience it's seldom as good as making love to a woman who knows what she's doing and it's only natural for a virgin to feel some tension and potentially discomfort (depending on whether the hymen was previously broken) so IMO a virgin doesn't bode well for rampant free-loving sex first time out.