Nuts EU Referendum - How will you be voting?

The Remain voters have started a petition for another referendum.

karlypants wrote:The Remain voters have started a petition for another referendum.

 it will never happen KP, we've made our bed and we have to lie in it now, for better or worse

Great result today !!!!!!!!

Absolutely over the moon, thanks to you all for voting, standing up to the threats, and having the courage to stand up for independence....

The only way is up now from here, I feel so proud today ( Huge Smile on my face today ).

A lot of other countries will follow us now, the EU is a swamp, and we're out wweehhhhhoooo.

Overnight, France's economy has overtaken ours - which was a surprise as I had thought that the foreign markets would have considered the Euro to be weaker as a result of the UK leaving.

Perhaps it's because we haven't left yet and probably won't for another 3 years?

Did a quick calculation as to how much I lost last night and it's a lose:lose situation.

There's a basic guide to how Brexit will affect your finances here. It has information for homeowners, folk with mortgages, people claiming benefits, investors etc and although it's a very crude overview, it does inform about what is likely to happen.

Personally I think it's an optimistic view, but having listened to Mark Carney, the CANADIAN Governor of the Bank of England appeal to the world markets this morning we may narrowly avoid financial armageddon as he emphasised that Britain is in a position to sell off more of our assets to pay for the huge losses we've made over Brexit.

So a lot of Brexit voters hoping for a bigger slice of the pie waking up to find that the pie is very much smaller this morning - although I suspect they are blissfully unaware of it, or what they've done.

But they can say goodbye to cheap European food, booze and fags. I reckon it will be at least a couple of months before the price hikes and salary caps kick in though.

What's happening re foreign holidays Martin?

Breaking news: 2 Labour MPs have asked for a vote of no confidence in Corbyn.

xmiles wrote:Breaking news: 2 Labour MPs have asked for a vote of no confidence in Corbyn.

It just means it's got to be discussed at the next PLP meeting. Don't think anything would come of it.

None of you doom mongers have got a fucking clue how this decision to leave will pan out. Give it a rest.

karlypants wrote:The Remain voters have started a petition for another referendum.

There should be one. Mainly on the basis that many leave voters spoiled the ballot paper.

They thought they were signing their name.

Boggersbelief wrote:None of you doom mongers have got a fucking clue how this decision to leave will pan out. Give it a rest.

Spot on, what a bunch of self righteous know it all pricks

And anyone saying that we are now going to suddenly send every cunt back to where they came from "just because we can" is a moron.

The hard workers will be more than welcome, the scrounging bastards that get a huge house and live off the state will hopefully get fucked off. As will any little bastard connected to terrorism. Be brilliant now we can filter out all those scumbags and be sure that good people are coming into this great country.

[size=31]It's this side of the coin that interests me. Much of the focus has been on immigration. Stuff like this is much easier to come by today than it was a few days ago. There's been far too much point scoring and shit slinging and not enough clear facts to base an informed opinion on. I didn't know any of the following until after the referendum. [/size]


[size=31]The priority for the rest of the EU will be to make sure that nobody follows Britain’s example. That precludes giving Britain a good deal. Leavers have retorted that, because Britain imports more from the EU than it sells to it, the other countries must offer a generous free-trade deal. But this betrays a misunderstanding of both EU politics and trade talks. [/size]


[size=31]The EU cannot let Britain have full access to the single market without its obligations lest others ask for similar treatment. And Germany cannot offer Britain anything on its own, however strongly its carmakers push for it. [/size]


[size=31]Any deal must be approved by all 27 countries, several of which do little trade with Britain. Spanish carmakers might like tariffs on cars traded between Britain and Germany. Romania sees little gain in a free-trade deal that lets Britain block immigration.[/size]


[size=31]In practice the EU will offer Britain only two possible deals. The first is to join Norway in the European Economic Area. This would preserve full access to the single market. But, like Norway, Britain would have to make a hefty contribution to the EU budget (Norway pays about 85% as much as Britain per head), observe all EU single-market regulations with no say in making them and, crucially, accept free movement of people from the EU. It is hard to imagine a post-Brexit government accepting this. [/size]


[size=31]The second is a free-trade deal like the EU’s with Canada. Yet this does not cover all trade, does not eliminate non-tariff barriers, excludes most financial services and could take years to agree.[/size]


[size=31]The other option for Britain is to revert to trading with the EU as America, China and India do, under normal World Trade Organisation rules. But most economists say this would make the economic damage from Brexit worse. It would bring back mutual tariffs on cars, pharmaceuticals, food and fish. It would reinstate many non-tariff barriers. And it would exclude most services, including financial services.[/size]

Boggersbelief wrote:And anyone saying that we are now going to suddenly send every cunt back to where they came from "just because we can" is a moron.

The hard workers will be more than welcome, the scrounging bastards that get a huge house and live off the state will hopefully get fucked off. As will any little bastard connected to terrorism. Be brilliant now we can filter out all those scumbags and be sure that good people are coming into this great country.

I said the same thing, all the remain supporters on here are making out they're the smart educated ones and the leave voters are uneducated xenophobes.
But by the rhetoric being spouted by them on here, they're the ones that haven't got the intelligence or vision to see past the scaremongering.

Oh I know WGO, it's the usual, arrogant suspects. Quite happy to tell YOU how you're an idiot for voting leave but then back up their argument based on guesswork.

I like Scottish people.

Personally I don't have a problem with the way anyone votes. Everyone is entitled to it and everyone has their reasons for doing so. There are a lot of very intelligent people who backed the leave campaign and wouldn't have done so if they didn't have good reason to think it is the right thing to do. 

Lots of people are worried about the politicians behind it all - BJ, Gove etc but politicians come and go and will be voted in or out as per the will of the majority, the Legacy of this vote will long outlast any politician and could impact future generations for the better, the fact is nobody knows. 

I wouldn't say it's the votes that are stupid, I would say it's the government's fault for not listening to the worries of much of the country. They've backed people into a corner. The people that felt their voice wasn't being heard have made their point. 

This is entirely the fault of the government, not the voting public. 

All we can do now is hope it pans out for the better.

My mother is 86,and voted leave. She's been crowing about it all morning.

I've just been round and accidentally dropped a care home brochure on the kitchen floor.

That'll make her think for a while.

Boggersbelief wrote:Oh I know WGO, it's the usual, arrogant suspects. Quite happy to tell YOU how you're an idiot for voting leave but then back up their argument based on guesswork.

I'm going to assume I'm one of the arrogant usual suspects here boggers.

But I think you're right in that this has been a very nasty campaign on both sides with far too much rhetoric and nowhere near enough facts.

So here's a few facts.

For the average individual EU membership has been advantageous in a number of small but important ways. For one thing package holidays to places like Spain or Italy have been far cheaper than they otherwise might have been due to much lower taxes on things like flights and hotel rooms.

The current duty free laws on things like cigarettes, alcohol and other goods will almost certainly be scrapped as they are European rather than British Law and its highly unlikely the EU will allow us to retain them when we're no longer part of it.

Import tariffs on things like German or Italian cars will definitely rise and the tariffs we have to pay to export goods and services to the EU will also rise along with them. A number of large companies such as Nissan are already saying they may have to relocate their factories to mainland Europe because to make them here then ship them as they do now would be prohibitively expensive. Aside from the immediate potential job losses should things like the Nissan plant in Sunderland close there is also the knock on or trickle down effect that will impact on a number of small to middle sized companies who service Nissan and others with things like parts or other goods and services. We could well be looking at an economic catastrophe in the North East in particular, certainly there'll be a severe downturn in the short to medium future (ie from now to about five years from now).

I don't say that everyone who voted Leave is an uneducated bigot but I do think those who did so have not properly thought this though in terms of the impact it will have on the ordinary man in the street let alone the UK itself. I suspect that within two to three years there will be a second referendum on Scottish Independence and one of the big issues will be the fact Scotland voted to stay in the EU but was 'forced' out by the English and the SNP will walk it. Nigel Farage has called this a "death blow" for the EU and he may be right but he hasn't carried the analogy through to its logical conclusion. It's a death blow to Great Britain as well, especially given the fact that Northern Ireland also voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. While I don't expect reunification of Ireland any time soon thanks to Ulster's largely Unionist population I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them making separate arrangements with the Republic to have themselves recognised as part of Ireland and therefore still members of the EU.

Sorry to go on for so long but this is going to be a complex and difficult road for the whole country to travel and overall I think we're going to find out we lost a lot more than just our seat at the table in Brussels.

[size=38]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/european-immigrants-contribute-5bn-to-uk-economy-but-non-eu-migrants-cost-118bn-9840170.html[/size]


[size=38]Its a forum for people to voice opinions is it not WGO? i dont mean to sound selfrighteous but you do mean to sound like a cock.  Thats the difference[/size]