Nuts EU Referendum - How will you be voting?

xmiles wrote:

xmiles wrote:

karlypants wrote:

BoltonTillIDie wrote:https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/

You won't win mate.

This is why I didn't bother replying to those two tits.

So you are a rich right wing bastard then.

Or maybe just stoopid.

bwfc1874 wrote:

gloswhite wrote:Not forgetting BTID, that on the security front, UK are the leaders in Europe. We have close ties, and work well with, the Americans, more so than the Europeans.

Correct we've always been Americas first contact in Europe. But given the choice we've just made to pull away from Europe are we going to be of as much value as we were?

karlypants wrote:

xmiles wrote:

xmiles wrote:

karlypants wrote:

BoltonTillIDie wrote:https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/

You won't win mate.

This is why I didn't bother replying to those two tits.

So you are a rich right wing bastard then.

Or maybe just stoopid.

I'm not one to divulge in my finances but all I will say is that I am doing extremely well thank you very much.

boltonbonce wrote:Thanks for the info on your finances KP. Stick 'em up.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Why aren't all the other countries in the world that self govern outside of a political superstate being accused of being inward looking racist xenophobic bigoted nations? 

I look out my window and I see no infrastructure, every other shop on the high street is boarded up, a jobs market made up of pathetic part time jobs and wages that haven't improved since 1997, railways completely dilapidated and not fit purpose, not to mention always completely overcrowded, roads are a mess full of holes and completely unsafe, the standard of education is going through the floor because of overcrowding and lack of funding, horrendous standard of care for the elderly paid for by robbing people who've worked their whole lives of their houses while people who live in council houses get it for free, paid for by, you guessed it! The people who are getting robbed twice over

Feckless lazy cunts who spend their days shagging and having as many kids as possible earning more than I get for working 40 hours a week. I've had enough I'm afraid and I'm absolutely sick of multi millionaires and 19 year olds who live with their parents telling me how I should have voted, not to mention the political elite trying to bully me into propping up their self interests. It's about time we stopped being Europe's welfare state.

gloswhite wrote:I voted out, and it wasn't just for the immigration. My view is that you don't have to be a rabid racist to be concerned about immigration, but you do need to have the tools, to at least tackle the problem, along with the ability to decide how to set up your countries defence, judiciary, social infrastructure, and working laws.

One thing I would say, is that I'm getting pissed off with how the Remains are taking the moral high ground. Why do you think you have the right to do that?  Its over, and demanding to know why someone voted Leave is wrong, and has nothing to do with anyone. If they want to tell you, then they will, but the way any comments are being received means that leavers will stay quiet, because of the abuse. FFS, it was a democratic process, and its over. Look forward, not back. We're not going to stay in the EU, and that's it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to face the reality.

xmiles wrote:What abuse?

If you are happy supporting Farage and co and read the Daily Mail that's up to you.

y2johnny wrote:

gloswhite wrote:I voted out, and it wasn't just for the immigration. My view is that you don't have to be a rabid racist to be concerned about immigration, but you do need to have the tools, to at least tackle the problem, along with the ability to decide how to set up your countries defence, judiciary, social infrastructure, and working laws.

One thing I would say, is that I'm getting pissed off with how the Remains are taking the moral high ground. Why do you think you have the right to do that?  Its over, and demanding to know why someone voted Leave is wrong, and has nothing to do with anyone. If they want to tell you, then they will, but the way any comments are being received means that leavers will stay quiet, because of the abuse. FFS, it was a democratic process, and its over. Look forward, not back. We're not going to stay in the EU, and that's it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to face the reality.

Hi glos. I was only asking kp as we are a similar age and stuff.  I wasnt demanding to know anything.  I was interested as i was almost a leave at one point.  Sorry if thats annoyed you or anyone else.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Why aren't all the other countries in the world that self govern outside of a political superstate being accused of being inward looking racist xenophobic bigoted nations? 

I look out my window and I see no infrastructure, every other shop on the high street is boarded up, a jobs market made up of pathetic part time jobs and wages that haven't improved since 1997, railways completely dilapidated and not fit purpose, not to mention always completely overcrowded, roads are a mess full of holes and completely unsafe, the standard of education is going through the floor because of overcrowding and lack of funding, horrendous standard of care for the elderly paid for by robbing people who've worked their whole lives of their houses while people who live in council houses get it for free, paid for by, you guessed it! The people who are getting robbed twice over

Feckless lazy cunts who spend their days shagging and having as many kids as possible earning more than I get for working 40 hours a week. I've had enough I'm afraid and I'm absolutely sick of multi millionaires and 19 year olds who live with their parents telling me how I should have voted, not to mention the political elite trying to bully me into propping up their self interests. It's about time we stopped being Europe's welfare state.

Why's that the EU's fault? 

Our infrastructures a piece of shit because we sold it to the highest bidder in the 80's and it's been underinvested in ever since. 

If you feel that cuts to social care have been too deep you're right, but that's fuck all to do with this issue. Moan about the government because it's them that are doing so, the EU never decided how our budget was divided.

To blame all of those issues on the EU is to absolve governments of any responsibility for their core purpose. What the fuck is the point in us having one if any of that we're true.

boltonbonce wrote:Don't. He'll ban you.

boltonbonce wrote:There was no need for the shackles. He's too fat to run very far.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Why aren't all the other countries in the world that self govern outside of a political superstate being accused of being inward looking racist xenophobic bigoted nations? 

I look out my window and I see no infrastructure, every other shop on the high street is boarded up, a jobs market made up of pathetic part time jobs and wages that haven't improved since 1997, railways completely dilapidated and not fit purpose, not to mention always completely overcrowded, roads are a mess full of holes and completely unsafe, the standard of education is going through the floor because of overcrowding and lack of funding, horrendous standard of care for the elderly paid for by robbing people who've worked their whole lives of their houses while people who live in council houses get it for free, paid for by, you guessed it! The people who are getting robbed twice over

Feckless lazy cunts who spend their days shagging and having as many kids as possible earning more than I get for working 40 hours a week. I've had enough I'm afraid and I'm absolutely sick of multi millionaires and 19 year olds who live with their parents telling me how I should have voted, not to mention the political elite trying to bully me into propping up their self interests. It's about time we stopped being Europe's welfare state.

Why's that the EU's fault? 

Our infrastructures a piece of shit because we sold it to the highest bidder in the 80's and it's been underinvested in ever since. 

If you feel that cuts to social care have been too deep you're right, but that's fuck all to do with this issue. Moan about the government because it's them that are doing so, the EU never decided how our budget was divided.

To blame all of those issues on the EU is to absolve governments of any responsibility for their core purpose. What the fuck is the point in us having one if any of that we're true.

I am moaning about successive governments, and in my opinion our commitments to the EU have only deepened the issues that I've described above, thus I voted to leave. Simple really.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Why aren't all the other countries in the world that self govern outside of a political superstate being accused of being inward looking racist xenophobic bigoted nations? 

I look out my window and I see no infrastructure, every other shop on the high street is boarded up, a jobs market made up of pathetic part time jobs and wages that haven't improved since 1997, railways completely dilapidated and not fit purpose, not to mention always completely overcrowded, roads are a mess full of holes and completely unsafe, the standard of education is going through the floor because of overcrowding and lack of funding, horrendous standard of care for the elderly paid for by robbing people who've worked their whole lives of their houses while people who live in council houses get it for free, paid for by, you guessed it! The people who are getting robbed twice over

Feckless lazy cunts who spend their days shagging and having as many kids as possible earning more than I get for working 40 hours a week. I've had enough I'm afraid and I'm absolutely sick of multi millionaires and 19 year olds who live with their parents telling me how I should have voted, not to mention the political elite trying to bully me into propping up their self interests. It's about time we stopped being Europe's welfare state.

Why's that the EU's fault? 

Our infrastructures a piece of shit because we sold it to the highest bidder in the 80's and it's been underinvested in ever since. 

If you feel that cuts to social care have been too deep you're right, but that's fuck all to do with this issue. Moan about the government because it's them that are doing so, the EU never decided how our budget was divided.

To blame all of those issues on the EU is to absolve governments of any responsibility for their core purpose. What the fuck is the point in us having one if any of that we're true.

I am moaning about successive governments, and in my opinion our commitments to the EU have only deepened the issues that I've described above, thus I voted to leave. Simple really.

Ye successive governments have screwed the majority of this country in order to favour the few. I don't know how you've managed to blame that on the EU though? And why would Boris and Gove do anything to improve the lives of ordinary people?

Out of interest should Sturgeon succeed in launching a second Independece Referendum for Scotland can we assume you'd now vote to remain in Britain as the SNP are keen to keep Scotland in the EU?