Nuts EU Referendum - How will you be voting?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:People want to live here because of our tolerant attitude, successful economy and high levels of job creation.

Now I know you're taking the piss.

You need to watch Grant Mitchell in the French camps, trust me when I say none of the inhabitants were quoting that load of bollocks.

Largely irrelevant, you think the Calais Jungle will pack up and move because Britain leaves the EU? It's got nothing to do with that.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Largely irrelevant, you think the Calais Jungle will pack up and move because Britain leaves the EU? It's got nothing to do with that.

You said people were desperate to come to the UK due to the "tolerant attitude, successful economy and high levels of job creation".

I'm saying I've never heard a single immigrant utter any of those words. So quite relevant to your original point.

The vast majority come for the free healthcare and benefits. I don't blame them for a minute, I'd do the same, but let's not kid ourselves it's about anything but easy money.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:People want to live here because of our tolerant attitude, successful economy and high levels of job creation.

Now I know you're taking the piss.

You need to watch Grant Mitchell in the French camps, trust me when I say none of the inhabitants were quoting that load of bollocks.

Largely irrelevant, you think the Calais Jungle will pack up and move because Britain leaves the EU? It's got nothing to do with that.

The next thing on the list if we come out is to brick that fecking channel tunnel up!

karlypants wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:People want to live here because of our tolerant attitude, successful economy and high levels of job creation.

Now I know you're taking the piss.

You need to watch Grant Mitchell in the French camps, trust me when I say none of the inhabitants were quoting that load of bollocks.

Largely irrelevant, you think the Calais Jungle will pack up and move because Britain leaves the EU? It's got nothing to do with that.

The next thing on the list if we come out is to brick that fecking channel tunnel up!

I genuinely would collapse the fucker, and have the navy patrolling the shores permanently

whatsgoingon wrote:

karlypants wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:People want to live here because of our tolerant attitude, successful economy and high levels of job creation.

Now I know you're taking the piss.

You need to watch Grant Mitchell in the French camps, trust me when I say none of the inhabitants were quoting that load of bollocks.

Largely irrelevant, you think the Calais Jungle will pack up and move because Britain leaves the EU? It's got nothing to do with that.

The next thing on the list if we come out is to brick that fecking channel tunnel up!

I genuinely would collapse the fucker, and have the navy patrolling the shores permanently

I totally agree, hopefully we will be able to plot money into our defence after we are out.

The channel tunnel is of no benefit to us anyway as a bloody air ticket is cheaper!

There are some potential terrorists on this thread. I hope Homeland Security are watching.

Natasha Whittam wrote:There are some potential terrorists on this thread. I hope Homeland Security are watching.

Women should be seen and not heard...

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Largely irrelevant, you think the Calais Jungle will pack up and move because Britain leaves the EU? It's got nothing to do with that.

You said people were desperate to come to the UK due to the "tolerant attitude, successful economy and high levels of job creation".

I'm saying I've never heard a single immigrant utter any of those words. So quite relevant to your original point.

The vast majority come for the free healthcare and benefits. I don't blame them for a minute, I'd do the same, but let's not kid ourselves it's about anything but easy money.

Ive never heard an immigrant interviewed on the news say he's after free money, you're talking shit. 

The fact of the matter is immigrants make a net contribution, so your argument is a load of bollocks. Increased population strains infrastructure yes, but British people's taxes aren't only being spent funding layabout immigrants that's a load of shite.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

Largely irrelevant, you think the Calais Jungle will pack up and move because Britain leaves the EU? It's got nothing to do with that.

You said people were desperate to come to the UK due to the "tolerant attitude, successful economy and high levels of job creation".

I'm saying I've never heard a single immigrant utter any of those words. So quite relevant to your original point.

The vast majority come for the free healthcare and benefits. I don't blame them for a minute, I'd do the same, but let's not kid ourselves it's about anything but easy money.

Ive never heard an immigrant interviewed on the news say he's after free money, you're talking shit. 

The fact of the matter is immigrants make a net contribution, so your argument is a load of bollocks. Increased population strains infrastructure yes, but British people's taxes aren't only being spent funding layabout immigrants that's a load of shite.

Are you so far up your own arse with your save the world shit that you cannot see what all this immigration has done so far to Europe as a whole and to our country?

Don't get personal, KP.

You're better than that, mate.

And your wife's a fucking foreigner whose NHS maternity treatment is probably costing far more than she's ever paid in in NI contributions.

Just saying......

I'm voting out. I used to be a supporter of the EU and it could have been of great benefit to the citizens of Europe, however all it has turned out to be is the biggest taxpayer funded gravy train in human history. If that wasn't enough it is also unaccountable, anti democratic, uncompetitive and become so hamstrung by its own beaurocracy that getting anything agreed is next to impossible, it is mostly a talking shop. If that isn't enough it has turned Greece into a basket case of a country and initiated the largest refugee crisis in generations , by poking its nose in Ukraine and other territories traditionally under influence of the Russians it has pissed of Putin and caused tensions / civil war in that region. If that isn't enough youth unemployment is at record levels and it's currency union is deeply flawed and under normal circumstances unsustainable, if it wasn't for the political will of the mandarins in Brussels it would collapse.

Leaving would almost certainly create volatility in our economy for a period of time until we completed a managed exit and may even precipitate it's breakup but we would in my opinion be doing ourselves and our neighbours a huge favour in forcing a huge rethink of how we can move forward for the benefit of all the population of Europe and not just the privileged few.

Breadman wrote:Don't get personal, KP.

You're better than that, mate.

And your wife's a fucking foreigner whose NHS maternity treatment is probably costing far more than she's ever paid in in NI contributions.

Just saying......

We have AIA private insurance which is covering it.

He's  going on my block list as I can't be arsed anymore with this bollocks, that's all I'm saying now because it's beginning to wind me up.

Who said anything about save the world? Immigrants make a net contribution therefore the theory that they all come here to live off benefits is incorrect. That's all I'm saying, you can avoid it with a typical daily mail style moronic response all you want Karly. It still remains a fact.

karlypants wrote:He's  going on my block list as I can't be arsed anymore with this bollocks, that's all I'm saying now because it's beginning to wind me up.

Laughable.

NickFazer wrote:I'm voting out. I used to be a supporter of the EU and it could have been of great benefit to the citizens of Europe, however all it has turned out to be is the biggest taxpayer funded gravy train in human history. If that wasn't enough it is also unaccountable, anti democratic, uncompetitive and become so hamstrung by its own beaurocracy that getting anything agreed is next to impossible, it is mostly a talking shop. If that isn't enough it has turned Greece into a basket case of a country and initiated the largest refugee crisis in generations , by poking its nose in Ukraine and other territories traditionally under influence of the Russians it has pissed of Putin and caused tensions / civil war in that region. If that isn't enough youth unemployment is at record levels and it's currency union is deeply flawed and under normal circumstances unsustainable, if it wasn't for the political will of the mandarins in Brussels it would collapse.

Leaving would almost certainly create volatility in our economy for a period of time until we completed a managed exit and may even precipitate it's breakup but we would in my opinion be doing ourselves and our neighbours a huge favour in forcing a huge rethink of how we can move forward for the benefit of all the population of Europe and not just the privileged few.

Agree with most of your post, sums up my issues with the EU pretty well.

I'm at an age where I can see my country slowly (well not that slowly at all in recent years) not being the country that I knew.

I think in all honesty it no longer matters much if we stay or leave the EU, the change in culture and ethnicity of our population as gone past the point of going back to how it used to be.

We've always had waves of immigration into the country - Christ the phrase 'Anglo Saxon' which many of us identify ourselves with can be traced back to the two tribes of GERMAN migrants settling in this country pre-Roman time.

Migration is not a problem if the country (any country) can absorb it and the migrants want to integrate with the people already there.

Sadly one culture based on its religious dogma will not allow that to be achieved under its scriptures.

The die has already been cast as such and a tolerance of each other - which there mainly has been needs to be strengthened not agitated by people in both camps.

I don't really see much point in hankering for the past - that has gone - and so to the future we must look.

At my age it no longer is my country - it is now that of my grown daughter and her generation and the generation that will in turn come after her.

She sees the world with fresh eyes, not knowing, understanding, or even caring what change I have seen, and in turn no doubt her children (God willing) will care not for her view when their time comes.

Rather than have boarders, nationality's and religions we should work towards the benefits of working together to build a future than running and hiding from the inevitable.

That won't happen in my lifetime nor probably not my daughters either - maybe it never will but surely we should never stop striving for it?

Maybe I'm unrealistic in my utopian vision but better to embrace the world than hide from it surely?

In my heart I want to vote exit from the EU but I know the tide will never stop even if we do pull up the drawbridge at the tunnel.

My head says the future is continuing with the EU - with all its faults - and there are many - than to bury our heads in the sand and deny that the world has changed and we as a country have less and less of a say in it as the years go by.

Maybe I am that Turkey voting for Christmas - but I do know Christmas will come eventually if I voted for it or not.

I'll step down from my soapbox now.

Sorry if you disagree with my views - they are just my personal take on things.

karlypants wrote:He's  going on my block list as I can't be arsed anymore with this bollocks, that's all I'm saying now because it's beginning to wind me up.

Internet breakdown alert.

Not sure this recent policy of mods slagging off members is for the benefit of the site.

karlypants wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:There are some potential terrorists on this thread. I hope Homeland Security are watching.

Women should be seen and not heard...

From what I can gather Nat's better to be not seen either