boltonbonce wrote:After calling half the Tory members crooks,he was asked to withdraw the remark by the Speaker.
"Ok,half the Tory members aren't crooks".
That's fantastic.
I'd not heard that one before.
Good old Den.
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Whose been the best Prime Minister in your lifetime?
boltonbonce wrote:After calling half the Tory members crooks,he was asked to withdraw the remark by the Speaker.
"Ok,half the Tory members aren't crooks".
luckyPeterpiper wrote:I'm going to get a lot of flak here but for me it's Blair. Among other things the working families tax credit was a stroke of genius that made my life a lot better and there was just a sense of optimism and hope about everything in almost everyone I knew especially around the turn of the millennium. I never liked Brown and I know a lot of things Blair wanted to do were blocked by the then chancellor and his cronies who circled like vultures. Whether or not you agree with the Iraq War (personally I think we should have done it right and booted Hussein back in 91 not left him in place for another 12 years) Blair accomplished quite a lot domestically and he both modernised and revitalised the Labour Party by building on the work the late great John Smith had started.
I suppose it's all down to a matter of perception and how each individual sees his/her life at the time but from 97 to 02 my life and that of my then wife and 2 sons improved dramatically both financially and in other ways. I'd have to say that those years were among the best days of my life and one of the very rare times when I wasn't worried about making ends meet. I still don't understand how the most popular Labour leader ever, a man who won 3 straight General Elections and by very big majorities is now so villified by so many. Yes he's opinionated and he didn't exactly cover himself in glory on the foreign stage but he was far from alone in that. Personally I think we won't see a Labour leader that effective at convincing the public to follow him again in my lifetime.
Brian Cloughboltonbonce wrote:Who was the best Prime Minister we never had?
He'd certainly make more sense than some.Lard Lad wrote:Stanley Unwin
Norpig wrote:i was extremely happy when Blair won the election as it meant the end of far too many years of Tory rule and for a while it was great, but he will forever be remembered for WMD's and leading us into deeply unpopular wars in the middle east.
I have no issue with Corbyn and his left wing views, he's an old fashioned socialist and Labour should be the other end of the spectrum than the Tories, but Blair and the party did end up morphing into Tory Lite by the end of the Blair/Brown era.
I do think though that Labour will never be elected with Corbyn in charge
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