Slimy Tory wankers.

The Government lost a vote in Parliament tonight after Labour tabelled a motion urging them to rethink their refusal to guarantee foreign EU nationals currently residing in the UK the right to stay in the event of us actually leaving the EU.

245 to 2 in favour.

But hang on a minute.........we've got 650 serving MP's, so where were all the rest, I hear you ask.....?

Hiding in the Tory members' offices is the simple answer because the spineless twats all abstained.

What happened to their deep-seated political convictions that we heard so much about in the run up to the referendum?

Could it be that the pack of spineless shitbags don't want to upset whoever their new leader / PM will be, so they've decided to lie low and wait and see what happens....?

Wankers, the lot of them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36730222

Jesus Boris Johnson's hypocrisy knows no bounds does it?

Here's his quote from the debate:

He told MPs: "I would like to set on record that countless times the Vote Leave campaign gave exactly this reassurance to people from other EU countries that live and work here and it is very disappointing that this is being called into question.
"It think it's absolutely right to issue the strongest possible reassurance to EU nationals in this country, not just for moral or humanitarian reasons, but very, very sound economic reasons too.
"They are welcome, they are necessary, they are a vital part of our society and I will be passionately voting for this motion tonight."

After everything he said about immigrants destroying our country the bare faced cheek of this guy just beggars belief. I can't help thinking he's now realised just how badly he's screwed up and I wouldn't be surprised if he's hearing some rumbles from his own constituency party about being de-selected as the candidate before the next General Election. He's finally been shown up to be an over ambitious, slimy weasel and the fact Gove stabbed him in the back the same way he stabbed this entire country in the back is nothing more than poetic justice imo.

whatsgoingon wrote:I just want to add a caveat here that you have omitted presumably because it weakens your rant, the government Ministers have said it would be wrong to give a guarantee without a similar deal for Britons abroad, which they say they will seek in Brexit negotiations.
Surely the fact that they are holding out for assurances for the same rights for our people living within the EU should be lauded not condemned.
Agree on the spineless self serving MP's though refusing to take a side for fear of it working against them.

But wasn't this a vote to "reconsider the policy"?

As opposed to voting for something that gives any actual guarantees?

They could always turn round later and say "yup - we've reconsidered it and we're going to do exactly what we were going to do before"

The prudent position to me would be to do nothing till we know that the guarantee will be reciprocated with British Nationals in Europe. Nowhere in what I've read is the status of EU nationals here being threatened, they are just holding back guarantees until our ex pat's status is guaranteed.
Any votes whether to reconsider policy or guarantee status are irrelevant until we know that our nationals futures are covered by the same agreement.

whatsgoingon wrote:I just want to add a caveat here that you have omitted presumably because it weakens your rant, the government Ministers have said it would be wrong to give a guarantee without a similar deal for Britons abroad, which they say they will seek in Brexit negotiations.
Surely the fact that they are holding out for assurances for the same rights for our people living within the EU should be lauded not condemned.
Agree on the spineless self serving MP's though refusing to take a side for fear of it working against them.

If you mean me mate then no, not at all. I completely agree that the Ministers saying they want those guarantees are absolutely right. My beef (and rant) is with Boris 'runaway' Johnson and his breathtaking hypocrisy about how important immigrants are to our society when he spent months telling us all we had to get out of the EU because immigrants were destroying it.

I absolutely agree that any EU national living in the UK and vice versa today should be given an unequivocal guarantee that they can stay where they are after Brexit is complete. In fact I sincerely hope that those people no matter what nationality or where they currently live don't wind up being used as a political football so to speak. Many EU nationals have made lives for themselves here and had families and the same is true in reverse. Brexit isn't their fault and to threaten to wreck those lives for political gain is totally contemptible imo.

whatsgoingon wrote:The prudent position to me would be to do nothing till we know that the guarantee will be reciprocated with British Nationals in Europe. Nowhere in what I've read is the status of EU nationals here being threatened, they are just holding back guarantees until our ex pat's status is guaranteed.
Any votes whether to reconsider policy or guarantee status are irrelevant until we know that our nationals futures are covered by the same agreement.

As Lusty pointed out, they were asked to vote on the principle of reconsidering their stance, not on anything substantive which would lead to action and an official ruling.

So they had an in-built cop-out clause right there and it was actually a bit of a nothing vote.

But not one of the bastards was prepared to stick their head above the parapet and indicate their true feelings on the matter for fear of automatically positioning themselves in either camp by dint of how they voted.

It seems that keeping your options open in the hope of securing the favour of your new (as yet unknown) boss is more important to these people than doing the job they are paid to do.

But these are the same clowns who were playing the "I live or die by my decisions and I will always base my judgement on my convictions, so help me  God" card a little over 3 weeks ago, as they set about demonstrating that they were good, honest people.

Bunch of vacuous, lying twats.

I get that and agree, it wasn't a bit of a nothing vote it was a completely nothing vote and a waste of everybody's time because the issue can't even be discussed to we know it will be reciprocated.
But like you I'm confident that wasn't the reason for the abstained votes, that was down to slimy cowardice and self preservation.
As an aside why are Labour tabling that motion knowing that the reason the guarantee was being withheld was to help safeguard British nationals futures.

Probably because they knew that the business about safeguarding the interests of UK nationals living abroad was nothing more a smokescreen and the opportunity to expose just what a bunch of self-serving, sniveling twats the Tories are was too good to pass up.

And it proved the point very nicely.

Breadman wrote:Probably because they knew that the business about safeguarding the interests of UK nationals living abroad was nothing more a smokescreen and the opportunity to expose just what a bunch of self-serving, sniveling twats the Tories are was too good to pass up.

And it proved the point very nicely.

If recent events haven't convinced you that Labour are equally slimy and untrustworthy then you are very blinkered.

I'm not saying they're not.

The PLP's in chaos and I wouldn't trust any of them to lie straight in bed.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to pass up an opportunity to stick the knife in the Tories.

Breadman wrote:I'm not saying they're not.

The PLP's in chaos and I wouldn't trust any of them to lie straight in bed.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to pass up an opportunity to stick the knife in the Tories.

And that glaringly unbalanced attitude is why people don't take you seriously 

Agree.

whatsgoingon wrote:

Breadman wrote:Probably because they knew that the business about safeguarding the interests of UK nationals living abroad was nothing more a smokescreen and the opportunity to expose just what a bunch of self-serving, sniveling twats the Tories are was too good to pass up.

And it proved the point very nicely.

If recent events haven't convinced you that Labour are equally slimy and untrustworthy then you are very blinkered.

The MPs making moves against Corbyn?

Do explain.

At a time where the party should have been consolidating they basically started a mutiny, whether you accept it or no they are every bit as dishonest and self serving as the tories.