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1Theresa May Empty Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 12:20

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Just made a very interesting speech and the news is out that Leadsom is about to quit the race making May a shoo-in for PM.
This will mean an interregnum whilst Cameron tidies up loose ends and May builds her Cabinet but the very fact that we have a leader-in-waiting should restore some confidence in the pound.

It's also interesting that the Leave campaign ended up with nobody on the Tory Leadership ticket.

2Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 12:28

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

May's speech was an eye opener. Main points were that she is committed to Brexit and that she has a social reform agenda.
Yes she's turned socialist all of a sudden promising to serve "ordinary working people" - which may pinch whatever's left of Labour's traditional vote.

She talked about a wide range of issues affecting first time buyers, the mental health system problems, the poverty gap, the north/south inequality, equal pay for women and a bunch of other issues which have traditionally been addressed by increasing taxes.

At first glance, it looks like there will be even more tax breaks for those on low incomes and higher taxes for the rest but we'll have to see whether this is just politicking or policies that make their way on to her manifesto.

Also interesting to note that she will become Tory leader without being elected and will introduce a new manifesto that nobody has voted for.

Here's an extract from the FT:


Monday’s speech is designed to show that behind Mrs May’s sometimes chilly façade she has a strong belief in improving social mobility. She will point to the poor life chances of black people and the white working classes and say she wants a society that works for everyone.

“Rich and poor, north and south, urban and rural, young and old, male and female, black and white, sick and healthy, public sector, private sector, those with skills and those without,” she will say.

That fairness will include measures to ensure that everyone can share in the country’s wealth in a deliberate “break with the past” for the party.

Obviously pitching to Tory centrists.

3Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 13:15

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

she almost sounds human....

The thought of a women Tory PM feels me with dread, maybe something to do with the last one being the devil incarnate

4Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 14:08

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Norpig wrote:she almost sounds human....

The thought of a women Tory PM feels me with dread, maybe something to do with the last one being the devil incarnate
It's a very clever move to hold the centre ground although at this stage it's clearly intended to be "statesmanlike" and full of appealing concepts with no specifics.

The devil incarnate will be in the detail....

5Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 15:08

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Now that it's official, HM The Queen is a bit p****d off as she'll have to schlep back to London to go through the "appoint a new PM" palaver.
The weather isn't great here in Norfolk but Her Madge was on the beach at the weekend watching the Household Cavalry exercise their horses in the sea at Holkham. TBF I know a few women who were there too as the soldiers tend to take their shirts off to perform some allegedly erotic homage of muscle, animals and surf that appeals to the lassies for some reason.
Anyhoo it's bye bye Sandringham and hello Buck House for our Liz who doesn't like having her hols cut short especially if it's just to give the royal blessing.

6Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 15:42

luckyPeterpiper

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Ivan Campo
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wanderlust wrote:Now that it's official, HM The Queen is a bit p****d off as she'll have to schlep back to London to go through the "appoint a new PM" palaver.
The weather isn't great here in Norfolk but Her Madge was on the beach at the weekend watching the Household Cavalry exercise their horses in the sea at Holkham. TBF I know a few women who were there too as the soldiers tend to take their shirts off to perform some allegedly erotic homage of muscle, animals and surf that appeals to the lassies for some reason.
Anyhoo it's bye bye Sandringham and hello Buck House for our Liz who doesn't like having her hols cut short especially if it's just to give the royal blessing.
It's actually a little bit more than that lusty. In truth the Queen could theoretically refuse to accept May as her PM. The Leader of the largest party in the commons attends HM to be commissioned to 'form a government that will command the confidence of the house'. Ted Heath was unable to give his assurance he would be able to do that in '74 or so and Harold Wilson was called to Buckingham Palace to form a government even though Labour was the second party due to him being able to form a coalition with the Liberals that gave him enough MP's to 'form a government that will command the confidence of the house'.

Since the Conservative Party has an actual majority in the commons May will be the next PM (assuming Leadsom does drop out and the 1922 committee endorses May as leader) because she will be able to assure Elizabeth that she can form a government. But make no mistake, the Queen's role in this is a lot more than merely ceremonial and given the nature of how May has come to lead the Tories she will probably face a pretty stern grilling before she gets permission to form a new government. Her Majesty may even demand (and has the right to do so) that a General Election be held in order to confirm May's mandate. It would be unusual but it's not unheard of. Victoria did it twice, George IV did it once. It hasn't happened in more than a century but it's still a possibility.

7Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 16:05

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May will be PM by Wednesday.

8Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 16:52

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I was right about sterling - it's stopped falling and has made a slight gain against both the dollar and the euro since the Tory leadership was resolved.

If she keeps her mouth shut for the next 6 months it could eventually get back to where it was before the referendum.

9Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 16:55

whatsgoingon

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Frank Worthington
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wanderlust wrote:I was right about sterling - it's stopped falling and has made a slight gain against both the dollar and the euro since the Tory leadership was resolved.

If she keeps her mouth shut for the next 6 months it could eventually get back to where it was before the referendum.
She's a woman mate, not going to happen lol

10Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 18:25

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I haven't actually grown out of laughing at that gag.

11Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 18:37

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Just seen the footage of Leadsom falling on her sword outside her offices, surrounded by her chinless acolytes.

Fuck me.....one magazine wouldn't be enough and you'd have to reload at least twice just to make sure you got 'em all.

12Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 18:54

Cajunboy

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Frank Worthington

Great news!!!!!

I was dreading another 9 weeks of all this.

Just need that prat Comedy Corbyn to jump off Big Ben.

13Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 19:34

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Well, she's saying all the right things! Just needs to put them all into practice now....

14Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 20:19

luckyPeterpiper

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Ivan Campo
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Barb Dwyer wrote:May will be PM by Wednesday.
More like a week on Wednesday I think. Before May can take over Cameron has to go to Buckingham Palace to formally tend his resignation as Prime Minister. Then she has to get the Queen's commission to form a government (admittedly a formality in these circumstances) and then she has to pick a cabinet before returning to Buckingham Palace to inform HM there is a government that will command the confidence of the House. I doubt she's yet had time to choose the full cabinet and it may take a few days for her to appoint all the Secretaries of State. If she's already done that then it may all be done and dusted by Friday and she'd be formally appointed by HM then but don't expect it by day after tomorrow.

15Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 21:20

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Urgh just awful.

16Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 21:23

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

She is as good as we're going to get. She will steady the ship, no doubt about that.

17Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 21:45

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luckyPeterpiper wrote:
Barb Dwyer wrote:May will be PM by Wednesday.
More like a week on Wednesday I think. Before May can take over Cameron has to go to Buckingham Palace to formally tend his resignation as Prime Minister. Then she has to get the Queen's commission to form a government (admittedly a formality in these circumstances) and then she has to pick a cabinet before returning to Buckingham Palace to inform HM there is a government that will command the confidence of the House. I doubt she's yet had time to choose the full cabinet and it may take a few days for her to appoint all the Secretaries of State. If she's already done that then it may all be done and dusted by Friday and she'd be formally appointed by HM then but don't expect it by day after tomorrow.
She will be PM on Wednesday.  Cameron said so earlier and I always trust what politicians say.

18Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Mon Jul 11 2016, 23:54

luckyPeterpiper

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Ivan Campo
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Barb Dwyer wrote:
luckyPeterpiper wrote:
Barb Dwyer wrote:May will be PM by Wednesday.
More like a week on Wednesday I think. Before May can take over Cameron has to go to Buckingham Palace to formally tend his resignation as Prime Minister. Then she has to get the Queen's commission to form a government (admittedly a formality in these circumstances) and then she has to pick a cabinet before returning to Buckingham Palace to inform HM there is a government that will command the confidence of the House. I doubt she's yet had time to choose the full cabinet and it may take a few days for her to appoint all the Secretaries of State. If she's already done that then it may all be done and dusted by Friday and she'd be formally appointed by HM then but don't expect it by day after tomorrow.
She will be PM on Wednesday.  Cameron said so earlier and I always trust what politicians say.
Interesting. In that case he must already have tendered his resignation AND May must already have selected her cabinet. If that's the case I think there's been a lot of back room dealing going on since Gove dropped out. I wouldn't be surprised to see Leadsom given a senior position, perhaps Home Secretary. I doubt Boris will get anything though, he was too visibly ambitious and the Tories themselves no longer trust him and Gove is seen as a traitor by both sides. I suspect the new cabinet is going to be made up of about half leave and half remain. It will certainly be interesting to see exactly how a cabinet will function after the vicious campaign but for once Nat and I are in agreement. May is seen by both sides as a "safe pair of hands" and while she might not be a charismatic leader she does have the benefit of being seen as a moderate who hasn't alienated anyone too much.

I just hope Labour sorts itself out quickly because if we split in two the way we might with the current Eagle campaign we'll be handing the 2020 election to May and her cronies on a plate.

19Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Tue Jul 12 2016, 00:14

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luckyPeterpiper wrote:
Barb Dwyer wrote:
luckyPeterpiper wrote:
Barb Dwyer wrote:May will be PM by Wednesday.
More like a week on Wednesday I think. Before May can take over Cameron has to go to Buckingham Palace to formally tend his resignation as Prime Minister. Then she has to get the Queen's commission to form a government (admittedly a formality in these circumstances) and then she has to pick a cabinet before returning to Buckingham Palace to inform HM there is a government that will command the confidence of the House. I doubt she's yet had time to choose the full cabinet and it may take a few days for her to appoint all the Secretaries of State. If she's already done that then it may all be done and dusted by Friday and she'd be formally appointed by HM then but don't expect it by day after tomorrow.
She will be PM on Wednesday.  Cameron said so earlier and I always trust what politicians say.
Interesting. In that case he must already have tendered his resignation AND May must already have selected her cabinet. If that's the case I think there's been a lot of back room dealing going on since Gove dropped out. I wouldn't be surprised to see Leadsom given a senior position, perhaps Home Secretary. I doubt Boris will get anything though, he was too visibly ambitious and the Tories themselves no longer trust him and Gove is seen as a traitor by both sides. I suspect the new cabinet is going to be made up of about half leave and half remain. It will certainly be interesting to see exactly how a cabinet will function after the vicious campaign but for once Nat and I are in agreement. May is seen by both sides as a "safe pair of hands" and while she might not be a charismatic leader she does have the benefit of being seen as a moderate who hasn't alienated anyone too much.

I just hope Labour sorts itself out quickly because if we split in two the way we might with the current Eagle campaign we'll be handing the 2020 election to May and her cronies on a plate.
Tendering his resignation happens on Wednesday, he goes to see the queen and says I'm resigning. The queen says don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Theresa May walks in and says I'm the new prime minister, the queen says can I go back on holiday now.

It's not a long process and Theresa May can pick her cabinet Tuesday/Wednesday or even afterwards.

20Theresa May Empty Re: Theresa May Tue Jul 12 2016, 09:51

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Will she find room in her new cabinet for the three Brexiteers, Boris, Gove and Leadsom?

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