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1Kick out the JAMs Empty Kick out the JAMs Thu Nov 24 2016, 12:44

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

You probably have worked out that politically I'm a social meritocratist so what I'm about to write may seem slightly out of character but it needs to be said.

I have always thought that society should provide for those who are ill and infirm or otherwise unable to look after themselves, but this "Just About Managing" nonsense is starting to exercise me.

Has Britain gone totally soft?
When I were a lad, the vast majority of folk had nowt other than a work ethic and a will to do the best they can.
We ate whatever was put on the table. We walked miles to school because we couldn't afford bus fare. If we wanted a book, a telly or a car, we saved up until we could afford it and until then we did without. We lived within our means.

Few people complained and as a nation we generally got on with it and we took what we were given. It was the British way, the Blitz mentality, nose to the grindstone and acceptance of our lot - and for the most part we were happy, even if Xmas day presents amounted to little more than a tangerine and a piece of string.

Yesterday I watched the appalling tale of a bloke who works at Liverpool Uni, earns £29 grand and is struggling to keep his wife and five kids in a style to which they are accustomed.

Hang on? Five kids? When did we earn the right to have more kids than we can afford and insist that the rest of society picks up the bill? 

Is he just about managing to keep up the payments on his fancy car or his £100 a month SKY bill? Poor bastard.

Then it dawned on me that 90% of society is in the "Just About Managing" group that the Tories have created to appease the mood of the nation and distract folk from the problems they have caused.

No wonder we voted to leave the EU - I can only think of a handful of people who are not JAM. 

Because as long as society believes that it is a human right to breed beyond your capability to support or to spend beyond your capability to pay everyone will be "just about managing" - forever.

2Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Thu Nov 24 2016, 12:53

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

I was expecting a thread about Fred "Sonic" Smith and the MC5.

I am now officially disappointed.

(But I do agree with everything written above. As will Whittam. And that concerns me a bit....)

3Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Thu Nov 24 2016, 12:56

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I was behind a young woman in our local corner shop last week,and she was complaining to her friend about the price of school uniforms,the price of food,and how much her Sky TV subscription was draining her resources.
She then proceeded to buy two packets of fags and ten scratch cards,which she scratched at the door of the shop,and,having won on two of them,cashed them in and bought some more.
Many people are genuinely struggling. But many more simply need to get their priorities right.

4Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Thu Nov 24 2016, 12:57

whatsgoingon

whatsgoingon
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

The example you cited is a damn site more bearable than the people who have never worked a day in their lives and increase their family size to increase their benefit cheque.
Nothing makes my blood boil more than reading about perpetual dossers with a litter of kids complaining because they need a bigger house and the nasty DHSS won't let them have one.

5Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Thu Nov 24 2016, 13:14

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

It's the society we live in nowadays and it's not just a British thing.

We've all fallen for the con that we "deserve" the best all the time and if we don't get it, it's some other bastard's fault and we're entitled to some compo as a result.

And it's all short-termism - "I deserve it, I want it now so I'm having it and bollocks to the consequences."

Look at the NHS for example...

We're no longer patients, we're "customers" and this ridiculous notion of offering unnecessary choice is part of the reason it's going bust.

I've told this before on here but after a recent trip to A&E, I received a follow-up survey text asking me if I'd recommend the services of The Royal Bolton's A&E Dept to my friends and family.

I mean, seriously.....what the fuck?

It's an A&E department, not a fucking florist or a restaurant.

But they have to do this shit nowadays because it's all about convincing people that they're getting the best for their cash.

I don't give a shit where Bolton A&E ranks in some spurious league table, so long as they treat me fairly quickly and I don't die, I'm happy.

People demand too much nowadays and there's no sense of making the best of your lot and managing your own expectations - That's for losers apparently.

6Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Fri Nov 25 2016, 20:52

NickFazer

NickFazer
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Yes we are totally soft and not just here in the UK, the West in general has gone that way and if we are not careful we will pay a very heavy price.

7Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 00:39

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Fuck it, I'm posting it anyway because it's a good tune and my OCD has kicked in like some knee jerk Pavlov thing and a thread entitled "Kick out the Jams" has to somewhere contain this song.



Yeah, we're all soft nowadays - That's a point which pretty much is no longer up for discussion because it's an accepted fact of life in 2016.

You fall over on the pavement?

You cry a bit and then trot off to the nearest lawyer's office to sue the council.

Your post's late?

Moan like fuck on Facebook then start an "action group" to sue the Royal Mail!

Your overtime's down by about eight quid because Wages got it wrong?

Whine like fuck all fucking day at your boss and keep reminding him of it every time you see him even though he's already fucking told you that he'll sort it on Monday about six times, despite him thinking that you're a useless cock who he wouldn't employ to wash his car, let alone the do the stuff that you're employed to do......

(Sorry, the last one was all me.)

Edit: I've just had a think about it and eight quid is a packet of nappies to someone so I need to calm down and remember that I'm still a Socialist and stop being a twat - He's earnt that money.

Even if the bloke in question is in his fifties and gay with no kids....It's his money.

8Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 07:25

DEANO82

DEANO82
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Bread2.0 wrote:Fuck it, I'm posting it anyway because it's a good tune and my OCD has kicked in like some knee jerk Pavlov thing and a thread entitled "Kick out the Jams" has to somewhere contain this song.



Yeah, we're all soft nowadays - That's a point which pretty much is no longer up for discussion because it's an accepted fact of life in 2016.

You fall over on the pavement?

You cry a bit and then trot off to the nearest lawyer's office to sue the council.

Your post's late?

Moan like fuck on Facebook then start an "action group" to sue the Royal Mail!

Your overtime's down by about eight quid because Wages got it wrong?

Whine like fuck all fucking day at your boss and keep reminding him of it every time you see him even though he's already fucking told you that he'll sort it on Monday about six times, despite him thinking that you're a useless cock who he wouldn't employ to wash his car, let alone the do the stuff that you're employed to do......

(Sorry, the last one was all me.)

Edit: I've just had a think about it and eight quid is a packet of nappies to someone so I need to calm down and remember that I'm still a Socialist and stop being a twat - He's earnt that money.

Even if the bloke in question is in his fifties and gay with no kids....It's his money.
Hope you get your 8 quid on Monday  Very Happy

9Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 09:00

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Just that one example of the nappies shows how we've all gone nowadays. My kids had proper nappies, not padded ones, and they were washed and reused. Today they are all thrown away to clog up the system, and are apparently causing lots of problems. (are they really £8 to buy?)

10Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 09:51

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I can't tell you how many disposable nappies I have to pick up during the day. You can't trim a hedge without finding them.
WTF is wrong with people!?

11Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 10:53

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

i hate people who drop rubbish all over the place so i feel your pain Boncey

12Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 11:20

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Norpig wrote:i hate people who drop rubbish all over the place so i feel your pain Boncey
We often have to grit pavements,and very often there's more rubbish in the shop front grit bin than there is in the litter bin,situated nearby. 
I just don't get it.

13Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 11:22

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

kids are the worst, i see them coming home from School sometimes, they've been to the chippy or shop, eat it then just throw the wrapper on the ground.

14Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 11:29

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Norpig wrote:kids are the worst, i see them coming home from School sometimes, they've been to the chippy or shop, eat it then just throw the wrapper on the ground.
A pizza can be pretty expensive,but you'd be amazed at how many boxes we find with just one slice taken out,then discarded for the birds and rats. If I buy a pizza,I make sure I eat it.
Mind you,there is an up side,because we find,on average,£150 per year in lost bank notes.

15Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 12:59

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Your pension pot must be quite full now then  Very Happy

16Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 13:12

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

gloswhite wrote:Your pension pot must be quite full now then  Very Happy
Sadly not. It all goes into our charity pot,which we dispense every six months to local charities.

Our last donation was £850.00 to Bolton Mountain Rescue.

17Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 14:44

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Good move, well done. (I didn't know there was such a thing as Bolton Mountain Rescue, or even mountains in Bolton  Very Happy ) Maybe my memory has dimmed over the years in exile.

18Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 14:47

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

gloswhite wrote:Good move, well done. (I didn't know there was such a thing as Bolton Mountain Rescue, or even mountains in Bolton  Very Happy ) Maybe my memory has dimmed over the years in exile.
You will be surprised at the amount of pillocks that need the service having got lost trying to find their way back to their car after a good dogging session up Belmont!

19Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 15:22

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

There's a Norfolk Mountain Rescue Team too. Honestly.

I think the point is that "Just About Managing" is that it's a function of unmanaged expectations. 

Everyone apparently has the right to do anything, own everything and achieve anything nowadays regardless of their talent and effort - so there are going to be a lot of disappointed people out there which goes a long way to explaining Trump and Brexit.

20Kick out the JAMs Empty Re: Kick out the JAMs Sat Nov 26 2016, 21:44

NickFazer

NickFazer
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

That sums it up. Everyone knows their rights but ignores their responsibilities

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