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21How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sat Jul 21 2018, 14:38

Sluffy

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wanderlust wrote:Anderson and Parky have made it clear that their priority signing will be a striker so if you take Boggers team (including Lowe) and throw in e.g. Wyke I imagine that won't be far off his first eleven.
As regards how we will fare, there are a lot of if's and buts as the new signings all have something to prove and have to stay fit, but if they do it looks on paper at least a better equipped team than last season. Apart from a striker, I'd be surprised if the rest of the seven signings Parky talks about are anything better than back ups - which may make it difficult to attract quality youngsters on loan from the Prem as they wouldn't be guaranteed game time. That's why Sterling chose Coventry over us.
No complaints about the signings so far as you have to gamble a bit when money's tight but at least he's gone for signings that could be great if they play to their potential.

Why do you continue to post completely made up bollocks all the time???

Robinson who was only 20 years old played 33 times for us on loan from Everton last season and Sterling who is only 18 was tapped up by his former coach who moved to Coventry -

Back in June Sterling says he was on the verge of a loan move to Bolton until he was contacted by Adrian Viveash, the former Chelsea academy coach now working at Coventry.

“Initially I was going to sign for Bolton but I got a call from Adi and he just said that if I come to Coventry he knows I'll bring a lot to the team and that it will be the best place for me to learn," the defender told the Coventry Telegraph.
"It's my first loan and he said it's a family environment and just a nice place to be".

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So we DO play young loanees from Premier clubs if they are good enough and where would you go at just 18 years of age for your first loan out some random club up north or to a place where someone who probably acted like your dad over the years who watched you grow up and helped you develop your footballing skills and would be sure to look after you was at???

22How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sat Jul 21 2018, 15:33

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Sluffy wrote:
wanderlust wrote:Anderson and Parky have made it clear that their priority signing will be a striker so if you take Boggers team (including Lowe) and throw in e.g. Wyke I imagine that won't be far off his first eleven.
As regards how we will fare, there are a lot of if's and buts as the new signings all have something to prove and have to stay fit, but if they do it looks on paper at least a better equipped team than last season. Apart from a striker, I'd be surprised if the rest of the seven signings Parky talks about are anything better than back ups - which may make it difficult to attract quality youngsters on loan from the Prem as they wouldn't be guaranteed game time. That's why Sterling chose Coventry over us.
No complaints about the signings so far as you have to gamble a bit when money's tight but at least he's gone for signings that could be great if they play to their potential.

Why do you continue to post completely made up bollocks all the time???

Robinson who was only 20 years old played 33 times for us on loan from Everton last season and Sterling who is only 18 was tapped up by his former coach who moved to Coventry -

Back in June Sterling says he was on the verge of a loan move to Bolton until he was contacted by Adrian Viveash, the former Chelsea academy coach now working at Coventry.

“Initially I was going to sign for Bolton but I got a call from Adi and he just said that if I come to Coventry he knows I'll bring a lot to the team and that it will be the best place for me to learn," the defender told the Coventry Telegraph.
"It's my first loan and he said it's a family environment and just a nice place to be".

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So we DO play young loanees from Premier clubs if they are good enough and where would you go at just 18 years of age for your first loan out some random club up north or to a place where someone who probably acted like your dad over the years who watched you grow up and helped you develop your footballing skills and would be sure to look after you was at???
You must have spent ages carefully selecting the quotes from that one article that vaguely support the spurious argument you are putting forward in your personal vendetta. 

Good to know I'm keeping you busy dickhead.

23How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sat Jul 21 2018, 15:47

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

#killingthesite

24How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sat Jul 21 2018, 16:09

Sluffy

Sluffy
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wanderlust wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
wanderlust wrote:Anderson and Parky have made it clear that their priority signing will be a striker so if you take Boggers team (including Lowe) and throw in e.g. Wyke I imagine that won't be far off his first eleven.
As regards how we will fare, there are a lot of if's and buts as the new signings all have something to prove and have to stay fit, but if they do it looks on paper at least a better equipped team than last season. Apart from a striker, I'd be surprised if the rest of the seven signings Parky talks about are anything better than back ups - which may make it difficult to attract quality youngsters on loan from the Prem as they wouldn't be guaranteed game time. That's why Sterling chose Coventry over us.
No complaints about the signings so far as you have to gamble a bit when money's tight but at least he's gone for signings that could be great if they play to their potential.

Why do you continue to post completely made up bollocks all the time???

Robinson who was only 20 years old played 33 times for us on loan from Everton last season and Sterling who is only 18 was tapped up by his former coach who moved to Coventry -

Back in June Sterling says he was on the verge of a loan move to Bolton until he was contacted by Adrian Viveash, the former Chelsea academy coach now working at Coventry.

“Initially I was going to sign for Bolton but I got a call from Adi and he just said that if I come to Coventry he knows I'll bring a lot to the team and that it will be the best place for me to learn," the defender told the Coventry Telegraph.
"It's my first loan and he said it's a family environment and just a nice place to be".

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So we DO play young loanees from Premier clubs if they are good enough and where would you go at just 18 years of age for your first loan out some random club up north or to a place where someone who probably acted like your dad over the years who watched you grow up and helped you develop your footballing skills and would be sure to look after you was at???
You must have spent ages carefully selecting the quotes from that one article that vaguely support the spurious argument you are putting forward in your personal vendetta. 

Good to know I'm keeping you busy dickhead.

Nope, I posted the quotes just as they were shown in the paper - even gave the link for everyone to see too.

I've also told you before that I'll not allow the site to turn into a Bolton News comment section clone full of self opinionated bullshit from nut jobs.

The fruitcakes on there are always banging on as to how Parkinson won't play the youngsters and somehow ignoring the fact he played a 20 year old for the best part of last season simply because the facts get in the way of their bile.

I don't mind anybody having a difference of opinion from myself but making things up that patently aren't true - and can be easily checked or widely known to be false - why do that?

..dunno..

25How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sat Jul 21 2018, 16:13

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

wanderlust wrote:Good to know I'm keeping you busy dickhead.

How old are you again? :facepalm: :flog:

26How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sat Jul 21 2018, 16:15

wessy

wessy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

To be fair when i read the post i thought that wasn't the reason, it was all down to knowing the coach.

27How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sun Jul 22 2018, 14:38

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

“I thank Coventry for giving me the opportunity to play and get more first team experience.”
Asked what his best or preferred position is, he said: “To be fair I’m happy anywhere down the right.
“A lot of people say my best position is as a right wing-back or higher, but I do enjoy playing right-back as well, so I don’t really mind.
“I just want to be in the starting eleven.”

28How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Sun Jul 22 2018, 16:38

Sluffy

Sluffy
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wanderlust wrote:“I thank Coventry for giving me the opportunity to play and get more first team experience.”
Asked what his best or preferred position is, he said: “To be fair I’m happy anywhere down the right.
“A lot of people say my best position is as a right wing-back or higher, but I do enjoy playing right-back as well, so I don’t really mind.
“I just want to be in the starting eleven.”

And your point caller is???

As others have already said -

wessy wrote:To be fair when i read the post i thought that wasn't the reason, it was all down to knowing the coach.

Or do you think that Wessy is a 'dickhead' also and keeping him busy too?

Rolling Eyes

29How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Mon Jul 30 2018, 15:23

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

So now that we're nearing the end of the transfer window we have a bit more insight into how the team will look. If we get Hobbs, potentially Robinson on loan, and hang on to Beevers we'll have a Championship standard defence IMO. The midfield looks to have improved marginally if Oztumer and Wildschut come good. Magennis, if we get him is a workhorse if not a regular goalscorer (Donaldson too) so I suspect we'll need more firepower, and Alnwick needs cover. As it stands, I think we'll struggle again but if the last few signings are quality it would make a massive difference as the basis of a competitive team is already in place.

30How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Mon Jul 30 2018, 22:41

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

One striker, that would make me happy and if we get one more keeper of a decent standard I'd be very happy. I think that squad should finish mid table which would be a fine improvement on last season. Obviously I'd like us to go up or at least reach the play offs but I don't think that's a realistic hope given the circumstances for this year at least. Maybe the 2019/20 season though?

31How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 11:25

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

luckyPeterpiper wrote:One striker, that would make me happy and if we get one more keeper of a decent standard I'd be very happy. I think that squad should finish mid table which would be a fine improvement on last season. Obviously I'd like us to go up or at least reach the play offs but I don't think that's a realistic hope given the circumstances for this year at least. Maybe the 2019/20 season though?
Aren't you concerned about the defensive side of midfield? We got rid of Henry, Derik and Prats and brought in Lowe. Vela could be asked to play deeper if required but it's not his best role and Oztumer isn't especially defence-minded so I'm concerned that there's not much cover for Lowe and we might have a soft centre at those times when Parky has played two DMs.
It can be worked around but I'd feel a lot better if we got in a midfield destroyer with a big engine - plus a striker who scores for fun and a goalie.
Overall we seem to be on track to be able to put out a team that can compete, although I'd be gobsmacked if we are competing for a playoff slot any time soon. I guess that will all come down to Parky and his ability to turn the lower league players he's signed into Championship players and get the best out of those who have already played regularly at this level. We'll know more about where we stand in the scheme of things on Saturday.

32How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 12:17

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Not as much as I would have been had we not strengthened the defence lusty. I agree a 'stopper' in midfield would be useful but (and this may be sheer optimisim on my part) it's not quite as vital if the CB's are solid which ours seem to be. Personally I'd like to see us play 4-4-2 which I know is considered old hat by most but it does work well when used effectively.

For me Terry Venables gave the greatest simple description of what football should be when he said, "Football is a simple game. You stop the opposition at the back, create from midfield and finish up front."

In truth we need a keeper and a striker more than we need a midfielder imo so if it came down to us missing out on one of those three I'd be content to wait until January for the midfielder. Of course you're right in that this is all speculation and we won't know how the new signings we've already made are going to work out until we see them play.

33How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 12:24

Growler


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

I think we'll be around the relegation zone because there aren't enough goals in the team.We scored 39 goals in 46 matches last season, have lost Madine from that and replaced with two lower league standard strikers in my opinion.

There is a  hope that Oztumer will be a goal scoring midfielder but the evidence so far is that Parky doesn't trust him defensively enough to start him.None of the other midfield signings score many goals

34How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 13:57

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Growler wrote:I think we'll be around the relegation zone because there aren't enough goals in the team.We scored 39 goals in 46 matches last season, have lost Madine from that and replaced with two lower league standard strikers in my opinion.

There is a  hope that Oztumer will be a goal scoring midfielder but the evidence so far is that Parky doesn't trust him defensively enough to start him.None of the other midfield signings score many goals
My feelings too.

We will probably be in the bottom three after the West Brom game and will struggle to escape the bottom six  this season.

Beevers and Wheater are way past their best and  last season they did not add to our goal tally like  they did in League 1.

I don't see where the goals are coming from,  unless the midfield are going to support the target man ( whoever) far better than  they did last season.

I just hope we can make some good loan signings that will make the difference for us.

35How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 14:02

Guest


Guest

If we finish one place above the relegation zone again I’ll be pleased - we have to be realistic about the quality of this squad relative to the rest of the league - even though i think overall the players in are an improvement we still have a massive Madine shaped hole.

36How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 14:13

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Personally I'm a lot more optimistic this season than I was at this time last year. I realise Madine is a loss but in truth I think Magennis plus one could more than make up the difference. Personally I think WBA will beat us but after that I don't see us struggling the way we did last term. I'm not saying we're contenders yet but I'd be surprised if we din't finish somewhere between tenth and fifteenth. Maybe I'm being too optimistic in that but I genuinely believe the capability is there. We do still need another decent keeper and one more striker to complete the picture but I have faith we'll get them if only as loan signings.

37How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 14:24

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

I know I'm stating the obvious, but we must not  get off  to another bad start.  I know we will lose at West Brom , but we need a minimum of 10 points after the first 10 games.

38How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 14:27

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Cajunboy wrote:I know I'm stating the obvious, but we must not  get off  to another bad start.  I know we will lose at West Brom , but we need a minimum of 10 points after the first 10 games.
I agree completely. I think Phil and the squad will have learned a great deal from that horrible start last season and we'll play much better in part thanks to the new signings and in part because Phil will have us much better organised. I'm actually going to stick my neck out and say we'll have between fifteen and twenty points ten games in.

39How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 14:35

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Going up, similar shocking style to what Leicester achieved the other year. Ameobis year this

40How will we fare? - Page 2 Empty Re: How will we fare? Tue Jul 31 2018, 14:37

observer


Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Sky Bet Championship table prediction: Where will the 24 clubs finish this season?

24th - Bolton

Bolton stayed up by the skin of their teeth last year. They have brought in Erhun Oztumer from Walsall but we are worried he is going to spend the whole season watching the ball go over his head and back again![/size]

They managed to stay up, which was a massive achievement that we put down to Phil Parkinson. He is a really good manager but we are struggling to see what more he can eke out of this squad. If they get off to a slow start and the fans get on his back again then Parkinson could be gone, at which point it would be curtains for them.

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