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Kane57

Kane57
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
So Doidge has been recalled.

The FGR chairman has accused Ken of lying to the club and player about his ability to sign for us permanently, furthermore he hasn't paid the lad since August so the FGR man has instead.


From Monday morning, Christian Doidge is back with FGR. We've taken the decision to recall him after his loan agreement expired last week amid continual contractual breaches by Bolton Wanderers.

It became clear to us that Bolton entered into a contract to loan and then buy Christian last August without the means to honour it, and perhaps the intention to do so as well. They haven't even paid his wages for the last four months (we have).

It's not just FGR that have been let down badly by Bolton, but Christian too.

Bolton's Chairman, Ken Anderson, made a lot of promises on the last day of the transfer window, both to Christian and FGR, and has kept none of them. This is all his work and from talking to Ken he feels immune from the consequences - but some of these promises are written in legally binding contracts, and we'll be pursuing them.

When the dust settles, we'll talk to the EFL about how they regulate clubs like Bolton. They already regulate the club to a degree, controlling all TV monies to make sure that football debts get paid. Hard not to wonder whether the league could also have a role in approving the terms of any contracts entered into - to make sure that they are actually within the means of the club.

We had no way to know, but the EFL should have the inside view on that.



Doidge has just bought a house up here too.

Absolutely despicable. Can't wait to hear the excuse. I hope they throw the book at him. This has to be the final straw.

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I always said id hold my hands up if i was wrong about the andersons.............this is me doing so!  This is beyond a joke now.  Clubs like fgrfc, withholding payments and not keeping promises could send them under.  Luckily, sounds like their chairman has his head screwed on.  Good luck to them and doidge for the remainder of the season......itll be a hell of a lot mote pleasant than ours im guessing.

Glad im a rugby fan now :rofl:

Kane57

Kane57
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I hope the FGR guy buys us

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
The rate its going i have enough in my car in the centre console.  About £3.20 in change for car parks.

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Disgusting and embarrassing for the club.

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
Don't remember ever saying he was my hero?

Anyway -

For what it is worth, when he was signed Eddie Davies was still alive and apparently underwriting the club on the quiet.
I doubt there was the intention to shaft Doidge or Forrest Green from the off.
I would guess KA has told the FGR owner that he hasn't enough left in the crucial EFL Sky payment due in ten days or so to honour the deal and that's why he's moved from being 'relaxed' about things to taking Doidge back and his statement of such.
As Doidge and FGR will be football creditors and will remain unpaid, then I guess we will be under the embargo for the whole of the window which means O'Neil cannot be signed either.
Thankfully we still have the ST in the background with their high net worth individuals on stand by to save the club.

Kane57

Kane57
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Fucking hell man

whatsgoingon

whatsgoingon
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I always said id hold my hands up if i was wrong about the andersons.............this is me doing so!  This is beyond a joke now.  Clubs like fgrfc, withholding payments and not keeping promises could send them under.  Luckily, sounds like their chairman has his head screwed on.  Good luck to them and doidge for the remainder of the season......itll be a hell of a lot mote pleasant than ours im guessing.

Glad im a rugby fan now :rofl:
Well done for that, he's managed to continue to kick bills and problems further down the road and now they're all coming home to roost, don't be surprised if he doesn't set foot in the club again, him or his afterbirth

whatsgoingon

whatsgoingon
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Don't remember ever saying he was my hero?

Anyway -

For what it is worth, when he was signed Eddie Davies was still alive and apparently underwriting the club on the quiet.
I doubt there was the intention to shaft Doidge or Forrest Green from the off.
I would guess KA has told the FGR owner that he hasn't enough left in the crucial EFL Sky payment due in ten days or so to honour the deal and that's why he's moved from being 'relaxed' about things to taking Doidge back and his statement of such.
As Doidge and FGR will be football creditors and will remain unpaid, then I guess we will be under the embargo for the whole of the window which means O'Neil cannot be signed either.
Thankfully we still have the ST in the background with their high net worth individuals on stand by to save the club.

Many have predicted this exact scenario since he was signed, how can you even doubt that that was the case, he's shafted everyone since he got here.

Sluffy

Sluffy
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Don't remember ever saying he was my hero?

Anyway -

For what it is worth, when he was signed Eddie Davies was still alive and apparently underwriting the club on the quiet.
I doubt there was the intention to shaft Doidge or Forrest Green from the off.
I would guess KA has told the FGR owner that he hasn't enough left in the crucial EFL Sky payment due in ten days or so to honour the deal and that's why he's moved from being 'relaxed' about things to taking Doidge back and his statement of such.
As Doidge and FGR will be football creditors and will remain unpaid, then I guess we will be under the embargo for the whole of the window which means O'Neil cannot be signed either.
Thankfully we still have the ST in the background with their high net worth individuals on stand by to save the club.

Many have predicted this exact scenario since he was signed, how can you even doubt that that was the case, he's shafted everyone since he got here.

Quite simple really because that is my opinion of the situation.

Prove to me he wouldn't have been signed if Davies was still alive and financially backing Anderson.

You can't.

That's simply your opinion.

I respect yours even if I disagree with it.


(welcome back btw).




Growler


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Well done for that, he's managed to continue to kick bills and problems further down the road and now they're all coming home to roost, don't be surprised if he doesn't set foot in the club again, him or his afterbirth
I agree.He chickened out of the Wigan game over a month ago because he hadn't paid the wages and hasn't been seen since.A lucrative FA Cup draw at Man Utd tomorrow might delay his exit as he might see that as a last chance to make money out of the club

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Not a good night for ken. This has garnered national attention now. He's also trending on twitter.

whatsgoingon

whatsgoingon
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Don't remember ever saying he was my hero?

Anyway -

For what it is worth, when he was signed Eddie Davies was still alive and apparently underwriting the club on the quiet.
I doubt there was the intention to shaft Doidge or Forrest Green from the off.
I would guess KA has told the FGR owner that he hasn't enough left in the crucial EFL Sky payment due in ten days or so to honour the deal and that's why he's moved from being 'relaxed' about things to taking Doidge back and his statement of such.
As Doidge and FGR will be football creditors and will remain unpaid, then I guess we will be under the embargo for the whole of the window which means O'Neil cannot be signed either.
Thankfully we still have the ST in the background with their high net worth individuals on stand by to save the club.

Many have predicted this exact scenario since he was signed, how can you even doubt that that was the case, he's shafted everyone since he got here.

Quite simple really because that is my opinion of the situation.

Prove to me he wouldn't have been signed if Davies was still alive and financially backing Anderson.

You can't.

That's simply your opinion.

I respect yours even if I disagree with it.


(welcome back btw).





Fair enough, but surely you are now seeing less and less reason to back him, the club is just lurching from one public humiliation to another. However i should respect your right to your opinion, just seeing whats happening makes me fume

whatsgoingon

whatsgoingon
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Not a good night for ken. This has garnered national attention now. He's also trending on twitter.

be interesting to see when and how he next shows his face, he's a clear narcissist and will hate the fact he has nothing left to spin this with, his usual MO will be to go on the attack

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I think all the people who have accused Anderson of being a unscrupulous liar - and there have been many - have at one time or another been in the position to know.

It's just that some folk didn't want to believe it, some folk are still waiting for conclusive proof and then there's Sluffy.

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Statement from the ST Board





Once again, the name of BWFC has been dragged through the mud as the FGR chair, Dale Vince has posted this evening that Christian Doidge will be returning to his parent club, instead of signing for BWFC in the planned £1m deal.

This situation cannot, in all honesty, continue. We have requested on several occasions that our current owner, Mr Anderson, meets with us to allow us to better understand the challenges that he is facing and also in the hope that he can give the BWFC supporters some assurances that the immediate future of our club is not in jeopardy.

We wrote to him on Friday to ask again that he engages in some meaningful dialogue. To date, we have had no response.

The distressed situation that Mr Anderson inherited in March ’16 has been very well documented. We understand that tough decisions have had to be made. However, there seems to be no light whatsoever at the end of this long tunnel and the concerns of the BWFC supporters are growing almost daily.

We are also in the process of contacting the EFL once again in an attempt to engage with them.

All we can add at this stage is that we merely want to assist wherever possible and find out where this may be practical.

We would also like to express our dissapointment for Christian and his family and wish him all the best for the future.

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Can’t argue with any of that from the ST, especially about Doidge and his family. Before we get Sluffy’s normal ‘millionaire footballers can survive’ comments, shit like this is an embarrassment for the club it’s a complete lack of respect.

RustyNail


Nicky Hunt
Nicky Hunt
Trying to get the post count up again Sluffy?
You are either too much a Knob to admit you were wrong and others were right, or as I suspect you are just trying to make the forum busy by disagreeing when any sane person can see that Anderson is as dodgy as a 9 bob note.

I'll admit, I've been on the fence with Anderson for most of his tenure, whilst never trusting the slimy get for one minute, I've been thinking until the last 6 months maybe he is doing an OK job finance wise, in very difficult circumstances. But this season its one thing after another so enough is enough.

From everything I have read, I 100% believe Anderson has purposely stitched up FG and lied to them just to get the loan. I mean who would agree a 1 mil fee for a fella 2 divisions lower anyway? Any football person would see how he plays first and then talk money. The deal never made sense to start with.

And who is going to want to deal with us after this? Embargo or not it is going to be difficult for us to get players in, on loan or otherwise, when other teams know a con-man is in charge.

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
It's true that Sluffy hasn't specifically used the word "hero" in the context of Toadface so perhaps another word might be appropriate in the title, but over the last two years he has been unrelenting in promoting the idea that Anderson is a reformed man, defending his every action and taking his version of accounts as gospel even in the face of the tide of people in all areas of business who have had dealings with him and come away unimpressed - all of whom Sluffy dismissed as cranks - to the point of starting threads specifically to discredit them.
I was hoping to look back at some of of his earlier posts that illustrate the point but they have been deleted/archived, however I did find this classic which is representative of the denial, misdirection and tone he has employed throughout to defend the lying bar steward.

Sluffy wrote: wrote:Shame Wanderlust is too far into his hatred of Anderson to even realise the long list of people who obviously have a high regard for the man such as - Eddie Davies who continues to basically still underwrite the club by having a £10 million 'soft loan' he refuses to call in, Warburton and Prescott's who haven't pushed for payment of their loans even though the due by dates have passed, the liquidator of Holdsworth company who in his professional judgement sold Holdsworth half share of the club's ownership to Ken, the EFL who in their professional wisdom have allowed the club to exit the long standing embargo, HMRC who have come to a mutual agreement with Anderson over providing a personal bond over future tax payments, the auditors who have signed off the accounts for the last three seasons as being true and accurate (albeit they can't state categorically that we are a going concern - even though we are still here three annual audited accounts later!).

I could go on but I think I've made my point.

Instead Wanderlust would rather continually put his trust in people's gossip (who he's never met, nor even know if they actually know what they are talking about) - on social media sites.

He's heard Anderson is a baddie by esteemed bodies such as the ST (have they disbanded?) and the LoV blog site (which I must say as gone down the tubes massively since Kane/Chris left - and it wasn't highly regarded by many back then!).

I guess once a moonman, always a moonman applies here in respect of Wanderlust's unadulterated hatred of our current owner - without any justification during his current tenure of the club from day one to now.

Anderson has done a fantastic job.

How bitter and negative can anyone be not to be able to credit Anderson for what he's done so far - and what he continues to do?

Well at least he got one thing right - I am and remain bitter and negative about Ken Anderson and what he's done to our club financially and reputationally and unfortunately from what I've heard (presumably from people I've never met or even know if they actually know what they're talking about?) there is worse to come.

My faith in Boggers has wavered a bit recently, but I pray he is right that a takeover is imminent. 

BTW - does anyone know where Anderson actually is? I desperately want Anderson to go, but not before he hands over the club to someone capable of running it.

Sluffy

Sluffy
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:It's true that Sluffy hasn't specifically used the word "hero" in the context of Toadface so perhaps another word might be appropriate in the title, but over the last two years he has been unrelenting in promoting the idea that Anderson is a reformed man, defending his every action and taking his version of accounts as gospel even in the face of the tide of people in all areas of business who have had dealings with him and come away unimpressed - all of whom Sluffy dismissed as cranks - to the point of starting threads specifically to discredit them.
I was hoping to look back at some of of his earlier posts that illustrate the point but they have been deleted/archived, however I did find this classic which is representative of the denial, misdirection and tone he has employed throughout to defend the lying bar steward.

Sluffy wrote: wrote:Shame Wanderlust is too far into his hatred of Anderson to even realise the long list of people who obviously have a high regard for the man such as - Eddie Davies who continues to basically still underwrite the club by having a £10 million 'soft loan' he refuses to call in, Warburton and Prescott's who haven't pushed for payment of their loans even though the due by dates have passed, the liquidator of Holdsworth company who in his professional judgement sold Holdsworth half share of the club's ownership to Ken, the EFL who in their professional wisdom have allowed the club to exit the long standing embargo, HMRC who have come to a mutual agreement with Anderson over providing a personal bond over future tax payments, the auditors who have signed off the accounts for the last three seasons as being true and accurate (albeit they can't state categorically that we are a going concern - even though we are still here three annual audited accounts later!).

I could go on but I think I've made my point.

Instead Wanderlust would rather continually put his trust in people's gossip (who he's never met, nor even know if they actually know what they are talking about) - on social media sites.

He's heard Anderson is a baddie by esteemed bodies such as the ST (have they disbanded?) and the LoV blog site (which I must say as gone down the tubes massively since Kane/Chris left - and it wasn't highly regarded by many back then!).

I guess once a moonman, always a moonman applies here in respect of Wanderlust's unadulterated hatred of our current owner - without any justification during his current tenure of the club from day one to now.

Anderson has done a fantastic job.

How bitter and negative can anyone be not to be able to credit Anderson for what he's done so far - and what he continues to do?

Well at least he got one thing right - I am and remain bitter and negative about Ken Anderson and what he's done to our club financially and reputationally and unfortunately from what I've heard (presumably from people I've never met or even know if they actually know what they're talking about?) there is worse to come.

My faith in Boggers has wavered a bit recently, but I pray he is right that a takeover is imminent. 

BTW - does anyone know where Anderson actually is? I desperately want Anderson to go, but not before he hands over the club to someone capable of running it.

Hahahahahaha!

You do really crack me up at times!

:rofl:

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Come on Sluffy there is no way you can stand by KA now surely? The man is turning our once great club into a laughing stock, he's lied so many times recently no one will ever believe a word he says ever again.

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Come on Sluffy there is no way you can stand by KA now surely? The man is turning our once great club into a laughing stock, he's lied so many times recently no one will ever believe a word he says ever again.
#FGR chairman Dale Vince: “He said to me you can seek a winding up petition and you can bankrupt the club, I don’t care, I’m a secured lender I’ll get my money back” 
Lost for words. #AndersonOUT [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


Enough said, come on Sluffy explain that one away.

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I was just about to post this.  Shocking behaviour and good that someone is making the wider footballing world aware of the situation.

Sluffy

Sluffy
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Come on Sluffy there is no way you can stand by KA now surely? The man is turning our once great club into a laughing stock, he's lied so many times recently no one will ever believe a word he says ever again.

I'm old fashioned Norpig, as I prefer to hear both sides of the argument before coming to a decision.

The game is probably up with KA now but as it stands at the moment he still is the owner of the club and has £5 million (or so I assume) in the club as a secured creditor - as he's said as much above.

I don't know how his conversation with FGR went but maybe he was trying to bluff his way out of a threatened Winding up petition from them - it's certainly true what he said about him being a secured creditor and the ones FGR successful Winding up order would hurt would be all the innocent creditors of the club who aren't secure creditors.

Who knows really what was in his mind and for what reasons he said it at the time?

It's clear that its all gone toxic and the vast majority want him out - so I guess he's just going to protect his financial interests from now on.

At the end of the day it is his business and providing he's not broken any laws it is up to him how he runs it, even if everyone else doesn't like how he does it.

I think Moonshift and PBP (Michael James) as the two major creditors will be instrumental as to what happens next as it's looking as though KA is now looking for a way out.

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Nixon reporting we owe Norwich a sizeable six figure sum in unpaid wages for Wildschut & Matthews






All coming out now, and I know Nixon has been wrong in the past but this would make sense considering all the other crap coming out today.

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Come on Sluffy there is no way you can stand by KA now surely? The man is turning our once great club into a laughing stock, he's lied so many times recently no one will ever believe a word he says ever again.

I'm old fashioned Norpig, as I prefer to hear both sides of the argument before coming to a decision.
You must be fucking joking! You don't and you never have. 

You have always vehemently defended every criticism of Anderson without knowing any of the facts. 

You even went to the length of starting threads to discredit Iles and Bonnar and a host of other reputable people based solely on them falling out with Anderson - again without knowing any of the facts. I should know - you've tried to discredit me without knowing the facts often enough.

Don't you ever read what you have written? There is no poster on this site who is less willing to hear both sides of an argument than you so stop trying to paint a different picture now that the truth is starting to emerge.

Now we're hearing that NCFC have not been paid for Wildschut and Matthews and that Anderson broke his promises to them too. Presumably they are also in the wrong?

According to you, everybody has got it in for Anderson. Well that's close to a fact and with good reason.

Hopefully when the full story comes out, you'll be man enough to apologise for all the bile you have spewed out - without knowing the facts. But don't ever claim that you "prefer to listening to both sides of the argument before coming to a decision" - if you believe that you're even more deluded than I thought.

Ososhot7


David Ngog
David Ngog
I must be honest and say that I nearly shit the bed this morning when I read about the state of Bolton today (in the Times) and recognised the picture of Ken Anderson as your chairman. I have no agenda - i was a family friend of the Andersons for several years - honest to God has no one actually dug into the family and where the money came from?? It would take a half decent journalist a few days to piece things together - just take a look at the 13 garage Nissan dealearship that the family ‘owned’ in South London - was it a legitimate business or was it a ‘car wash’ for money obtained by other means?

I’ve known Ken since I was a young teenager - even back then he was trying to ingratiate himself with the Arsenal board - sitting in the directors box - thankfully David Dein was streets ahead of anyone in terms of managing a football club. He would have smelt funny money a mile off.

It’s all smoke and mirrors - no real money involved - a long held ego trip from someone who was actually a Tottenham Hotspur season ticket holder when I knew him.

There’s so much I could say - suffice to say this will end up one way - the club will be asset stripped and Ken, Pat and Lee will climb back under the patio in Monaco.

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I must be honest and say that I nearly shit the bed this morning when I read about the state of Bolton today (in the Times) and recognised the picture of Ken Anderson as your chairman. I have no agenda - i was a family friend of the Andersons for several years - honest to God has no one actually dug into the family and where the money came from?? It would take a half decent journalist a few days to piece things together - just take a look at the 13 garage Nissan dealearship that the family ‘owned’ in South London - was it a legitimate business or was it a ‘car wash’ for money obtained by other means?

I’ve known Ken since I was a young teenager - even back then he was trying to ingratiate himself with the Arsenal board - sitting in the directors box - thankfully David Dein was streets ahead of anyone in terms of managing a football club. He would have smelt funny money a mile off.

It’s all smoke and mirrors - no real money involved - a long held ego trip from someone who was actually a Tottenham Hotspur season ticket holder when I knew him.

There’s so much I could say - suffice to say this will end up one way - the club will be asset stripped and Ken, Pat and Lee will climb back under the patio in Monaco.
Thanks for your words of encouragement Oso :)Could have done with them a couple of years ago when some folk were implying he's a changed man and shooting down any concerns about "King Ken" but it didn't take him long to sideline the other Directors and grab control.

Sadly we know we are getting shafted by a cowboy and are just praying we come out of it in one piece - somehow.

Ososhot7


David Ngog
David Ngog
I take no pleasure from this situation at all, but I absolutely assure everyone on this forum that there is FAR FAR more to this story than you would ever imagine.
I’m not guessing - I would be hesitant to reveal too much - I just can’t believe that some local journalist hasn’t dug into the past.
It would all become apparent.
Just how do you fail the fit and proper persons requirement to own a football club??
Let’s just hope that the club can get through these next few months and prosper under a new owner. 
It’s truly horrible to see a great club being turned inside out for an ego trip. 
It just reminds me of Dominic Chappell and BHS. Buy it for a pound, churn, say the right thing, take a consultancy fee and fold. 
If Ken Anderson has put a seven figure sum into the club I would choke on my shreddies - it will all be borrowed, leveraged, mythical money - if you drill down how much skin has ‘the accountant’ got in the game?

Growler


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Interesting stuff.Maybe you could email the Bolton News and point them in the right direction to where they could find the dirt on Anderson.
A concern is what Anderson will do with the EFL TV money which is due next week.I'm hoping the EFL only release it to Anderson in amounts equal to specific bills he needs to pay.Perhaps the EFL could make him go an sit with them and they will pay the clubs bills together by bank transfer.

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