Bob, you can't change the world on here.
You're not the first to vent your frustrations of the world on here though and no doubt there will be others in the future but whatever it is you or anyone else may want to put right with right with the world it simply can't be done on here.
I know the world is unfair, I've suffered both personally and career wise for doing 'the right thing' when looking the other way would have been much more beneficial to me - and known it to be so - yet still stood up when it mattered.
Was that noble of me or downright suicidal, probably a bit of the first and a whole lot of the latter but I still had to do it, that's how I am. I went into it with my eyes open and was fully aware of the consequences to myself (and as a knock on, my family too) but I still did what I had to do.
To this day I don't regret it, what's that's saying, 'it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees...
My point being that the events could have left me bitter and twisted against the world and I was determined that wasn't going to happen to me either.
Neither though did I wish to become an evangelist of sort, trying to change the world because of it, to justify and give validity to what I had done and all that I had lost for doing so, I did it because it was the right thing to do and although the consequences were not going to be pleasant for me I still preferred it to living with myself and knowing I couldn't stand up for what mattered to me when I needed to.
All the money and success in the world are meaningless when you no longer value yourself - at least to me.
I don't expect or demand that others do the same, I live in a world where I know most/nearly all of them wouldn't, that does mean they are bad people simply that they see things differently to me, who am I to say they are wrong and that I am right, isn't it just a value, a belief a credo you have that means something to you that others simply don't share?
A little while after my father had died I was talking to my mam and asked how she really was and she told me something that sticks with me to this day. She said that no matter what her heartache is that people don't want to listen to it, it makes them uncomfortable, it's not what they want to talk about, it is pleasant for them. They were all sympathetic when my dad died, obviously, but two, three months later they had moved on, and if my mother wanted to have a semblance of a normal life again she had to leave her anguish and grief at the doorstep when she went out and return to what her life really was when she returned.
That was life, that was reality.
Who cares if you did the right thing or not, who cares if people admire you for what you did or that it was just plain stupid in their eyes, you do it for yourself but you still live in the world with everybody else just the same.
The world is unfair, the planet is being ruined and people all over the world are abused and exploited, you, me or anyone else is going to change that from posting on here, they just come to Nuts for a bit of fun and not to be told they are thick and ignorant because the don't see life the same way as you do.
Have a vent by all means, lampoon them if you want, give as good as you get and everything else that you would say and do on the terraces or down the pub but leave it at that, know when to leave the anguish and grief of the injustices of the world at home, or at least have your say and move on, as isn't that what life is anyway?
Bonce, I understand it not being a pleasure to log in, I experienced the same, in fact if it wasn't for the fact that the virus tied me to home I'd be gone from here, I'd already said my goodbye behind the scenes.
Nuts is a mixed bag of oddballs and that's what I like about it, it isn't everybody singing from the same hymnbook and upsets and feuds are plentifully but usually kept just about in bounds for most of the time.
It's fun to me - but that just as I see it.
It doesn't mean that is how others see it, each come on here for their own reasons and as long as we can accept them or work our way around them then life on here is sweet, clearly it hasn't been sweet on here for you recently, and fwiw I'm sorry for that.
I can imagine you have worries away from the forum with your mum and what's happening in and around Warrington right now and not even being able to get to the Reebok every now and again for something different to be doing from the normal.
I don't want you to leave, I don't think anyone does including Bob but you've got to do what you've got to do, I understand that as well.
I do hope you might reconsider and come back and laugh with us all again, it's only words on the internet when all said and done isn't it?
Do they really matter that much to spoil your fun with the rest of us?
A fly in the ointment maybe isn't ideal but better the ointment and the fly than no ointment at all when you need it?
There maybe a few flies in my ointment when I log into Nuts but I push them away, flick at a few, laugh at one in particular and think fuck 'em, life is nowt but a bag of Revels apparently!
I do hope you return and soon but if not the place will be much worse off for you leaving and you will be greatly missed by all of us (maybe not by Bob so much!). We thank you for all the fun you've given us over the years and we hope too that you and your love ones stat safe and well.
You're not the first to vent your frustrations of the world on here though and no doubt there will be others in the future but whatever it is you or anyone else may want to put right with right with the world it simply can't be done on here.
I know the world is unfair, I've suffered both personally and career wise for doing 'the right thing' when looking the other way would have been much more beneficial to me - and known it to be so - yet still stood up when it mattered.
Was that noble of me or downright suicidal, probably a bit of the first and a whole lot of the latter but I still had to do it, that's how I am. I went into it with my eyes open and was fully aware of the consequences to myself (and as a knock on, my family too) but I still did what I had to do.
To this day I don't regret it, what's that's saying, 'it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees...
My point being that the events could have left me bitter and twisted against the world and I was determined that wasn't going to happen to me either.
Neither though did I wish to become an evangelist of sort, trying to change the world because of it, to justify and give validity to what I had done and all that I had lost for doing so, I did it because it was the right thing to do and although the consequences were not going to be pleasant for me I still preferred it to living with myself and knowing I couldn't stand up for what mattered to me when I needed to.
All the money and success in the world are meaningless when you no longer value yourself - at least to me.
I don't expect or demand that others do the same, I live in a world where I know most/nearly all of them wouldn't, that does mean they are bad people simply that they see things differently to me, who am I to say they are wrong and that I am right, isn't it just a value, a belief a credo you have that means something to you that others simply don't share?
A little while after my father had died I was talking to my mam and asked how she really was and she told me something that sticks with me to this day. She said that no matter what her heartache is that people don't want to listen to it, it makes them uncomfortable, it's not what they want to talk about, it is pleasant for them. They were all sympathetic when my dad died, obviously, but two, three months later they had moved on, and if my mother wanted to have a semblance of a normal life again she had to leave her anguish and grief at the doorstep when she went out and return to what her life really was when she returned.
That was life, that was reality.
Who cares if you did the right thing or not, who cares if people admire you for what you did or that it was just plain stupid in their eyes, you do it for yourself but you still live in the world with everybody else just the same.
The world is unfair, the planet is being ruined and people all over the world are abused and exploited, you, me or anyone else is going to change that from posting on here, they just come to Nuts for a bit of fun and not to be told they are thick and ignorant because the don't see life the same way as you do.
Have a vent by all means, lampoon them if you want, give as good as you get and everything else that you would say and do on the terraces or down the pub but leave it at that, know when to leave the anguish and grief of the injustices of the world at home, or at least have your say and move on, as isn't that what life is anyway?
Bonce, I understand it not being a pleasure to log in, I experienced the same, in fact if it wasn't for the fact that the virus tied me to home I'd be gone from here, I'd already said my goodbye behind the scenes.
Nuts is a mixed bag of oddballs and that's what I like about it, it isn't everybody singing from the same hymnbook and upsets and feuds are plentifully but usually kept just about in bounds for most of the time.
It's fun to me - but that just as I see it.
It doesn't mean that is how others see it, each come on here for their own reasons and as long as we can accept them or work our way around them then life on here is sweet, clearly it hasn't been sweet on here for you recently, and fwiw I'm sorry for that.
I can imagine you have worries away from the forum with your mum and what's happening in and around Warrington right now and not even being able to get to the Reebok every now and again for something different to be doing from the normal.
I don't want you to leave, I don't think anyone does including Bob but you've got to do what you've got to do, I understand that as well.
I do hope you might reconsider and come back and laugh with us all again, it's only words on the internet when all said and done isn't it?
Do they really matter that much to spoil your fun with the rest of us?
A fly in the ointment maybe isn't ideal but better the ointment and the fly than no ointment at all when you need it?
There maybe a few flies in my ointment when I log into Nuts but I push them away, flick at a few, laugh at one in particular and think fuck 'em, life is nowt but a bag of Revels apparently!
I do hope you return and soon but if not the place will be much worse off for you leaving and you will be greatly missed by all of us (maybe not by Bob so much!). We thank you for all the fun you've given us over the years and we hope too that you and your love ones stat safe and well.