For Froome it isn't quite so bad as the talk before the start was that he was really there to help Carapaz who finish second on the day just one second behind Roglic.
Again Jumdo is the team to beat with Roglic, Dumoulin and that vastly underrated Sepp Kuss in their team.
Ineos have a number of the south American contingent in their team to help Carapaz and I guess Frome is a bit of a wild card now, he may come good, he may be free to go in breakaways to be there fresh to help Carapaz, he may just not have it any more.
Hard to see past Roglic as the winner but as you know anything can happen in cycling - and usually does.
So far TdF and the Giro have mainly avoided coronavirus but things have got a lot worse since then and Spain/Madrid isn't the best place to be right now but fingers crossed that the race gets through it all.
I'm very pleased to see one of my personal favourites Dan Martin do well on the stage, great climber but can't TT. Hope he's able to win a stage or two.
Other names to look out for Dumoulin, Mas, Chavez, Carthy, Bennett and Woods who already has had a crash unfortunately!
Two Tours going on at the same time, how spoiled are we!