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I received this pm from one of our members today which is self explanatory -
"Morning Sluffy,
I hope you’re well.
Why don’t you post the Nuts mission statement for all members to see and remind them why we all came here in the first place? I think it would be a good time to reset everyone and get the site back on track as it isn’t representative of a good team forum or the club right now.
Just a though and none of my business but I think it’s a shame. There are some good people on here who seem to rely on it as an important part of their day".
Well fwiw here goes.
We've never had a mission statement as such and the forum was born out of Burnden Aces, where I was asked to mod the site by the site owner whilst he finished his education, apparently BA was born from one of his educational projects he did at that time.
The reason I was even on BA in the first place was that I thrown off The Wanderers forum where after becoming a mod on there, told them if they wished me to do the job then I would do it fairly and equally to all which included a number of the 'clique' who up to that point acted as though the rules of the forum didn't apply to them.
Anyway on joining BA there was hardly anyone posting up on it and more as an hobby and a bit of a challenge I set myself was to see how much I could grow the site.
Well if I say so myself I did pretty well and at one time was even matching and surpassing ww in terms of daily post count!
However as in everything, some people took things a little too far at times and did not take too kindly to me suggesting they should pack it in. I acquired a bit of animosity from some for trying to keep the peace and that was added to one or two I had upset over on TW as well.
Everything seemed to be going along just fine but the site owner in his wisdom decided he would take over the forum himself one day and all but in name, sacked me on the spot.
His site, he could do what he wants but that opened the door for a number of posters who I had crossed swords with me, to abuse me and troll me without end from then on and I simply wasn't going to endure that.
I wrote to all the regular members of the site as to what had happened to me and why I would suddenly not be posting on the site anymore and thanked them for their help and kindness to me over the years I had been there.
I was quite staggered really when several of them suggested that we should build a new forum and carry on as normal and leave BA behind.
I linked two of those suggesting we start anew site together and the three of us founded Nuts.
Certainly the intent from two of us was for Nuts to be a place where we could come to find news about the club we all supported but also to have a bit of a laugh whilst we were here and to allow everybody who wanted to join us enjoy the place with us.
We had no expectations of ever being successful as a forum, indeed a Wanderers forum 'White Hot' I believe it was called had started up sometime after BA and was a breakaway of key posters and their mates from ww and that failed a folded, so we thought we had little to no chance of surviving but here we are some eight years on!
Things however have not gone smoothly behind the scenes and one of the founders actively tried to ditch myself and the other founder and replace us with a poster called Largehat.
He felt apparently that the site should have ambitions to become the largest BWFC forum and not be a happy and pleasant site that we had become and what we thought our aim was in the first place.
Anyway we rode out that storm but there was always friction there since and 'games' have been going on ever since.
A number of other attempts have been made to take control of the site and all have been resisted. Other rival forums have even been set up but up failed.
Even after all of this, those behind the 'games' have been allowed to stay on the forum as frankly it is only the internet when all said and done and shouldn't be taken seriously.
God help you if you do.
One of the founders has disappeared along the way, I believe he's had health issues but even after trying extensively to see if he was ok, I (and others) have failed to contact him.
I've also invited BTID, Karly and Leeds Trotter to become Admin's and given them the same rights and authority as myself and have tried to run this site as a democracy rather than a dictatorship as I'm often accused of.
I've answered to them recently in respect of the xmiles account for instance.
So back to the original point, what is the forum's mission?
I believe and always have, that Nuts is simply a place to escape to for a few minutes from real life to catch up on Wanderers news and hopefully a bit of a laugh with other whilst you are here.
Not much to aspire to really but clearly all but impossible to achieve.
I've no problems with people having views I don't agree with but equally I wouldn't dream of banning them for holding them - so how am I able to give in to popularist pressure to ban Bob because many of you don't agree with him?
What exactly are the grounds on which to ban him - because he doesn't rate you and thinks of some/many/all of us as blockheads?
Is he trolling?
I've asked him (given him a ban) to refrain from doing so and which he seems to have abided by.
Should I simply ban him then because people don't like him?
If that's what you want then I might as go as well because if I can tolerate people trying repeatedly throw me off my own site and laugh about it then shouldn't people be laughing at Bob's post rather than frothing at the mouth in anger at them?
What do people want from the forum, me to go is that it?
Just say so and I will, I certainly won't miss the shite I have to constantly deal with to make it as open and inclusive to all, to keep the fake accounts, the trolling and the abuse to a minimum, to stand against the crowd in order to behave fairly to everyone.
I doubt anyone else will step up and keep the site fair and honest but if that's what you want I'll step away and let you get on with it.
"Morning Sluffy,
I hope you’re well.
Why don’t you post the Nuts mission statement for all members to see and remind them why we all came here in the first place? I think it would be a good time to reset everyone and get the site back on track as it isn’t representative of a good team forum or the club right now.
Just a though and none of my business but I think it’s a shame. There are some good people on here who seem to rely on it as an important part of their day".
Well fwiw here goes.
We've never had a mission statement as such and the forum was born out of Burnden Aces, where I was asked to mod the site by the site owner whilst he finished his education, apparently BA was born from one of his educational projects he did at that time.
The reason I was even on BA in the first place was that I thrown off The Wanderers forum where after becoming a mod on there, told them if they wished me to do the job then I would do it fairly and equally to all which included a number of the 'clique' who up to that point acted as though the rules of the forum didn't apply to them.
Anyway on joining BA there was hardly anyone posting up on it and more as an hobby and a bit of a challenge I set myself was to see how much I could grow the site.
Well if I say so myself I did pretty well and at one time was even matching and surpassing ww in terms of daily post count!
However as in everything, some people took things a little too far at times and did not take too kindly to me suggesting they should pack it in. I acquired a bit of animosity from some for trying to keep the peace and that was added to one or two I had upset over on TW as well.
Everything seemed to be going along just fine but the site owner in his wisdom decided he would take over the forum himself one day and all but in name, sacked me on the spot.
His site, he could do what he wants but that opened the door for a number of posters who I had crossed swords with me, to abuse me and troll me without end from then on and I simply wasn't going to endure that.
I wrote to all the regular members of the site as to what had happened to me and why I would suddenly not be posting on the site anymore and thanked them for their help and kindness to me over the years I had been there.
I was quite staggered really when several of them suggested that we should build a new forum and carry on as normal and leave BA behind.
I linked two of those suggesting we start anew site together and the three of us founded Nuts.
Certainly the intent from two of us was for Nuts to be a place where we could come to find news about the club we all supported but also to have a bit of a laugh whilst we were here and to allow everybody who wanted to join us enjoy the place with us.
We had no expectations of ever being successful as a forum, indeed a Wanderers forum 'White Hot' I believe it was called had started up sometime after BA and was a breakaway of key posters and their mates from ww and that failed a folded, so we thought we had little to no chance of surviving but here we are some eight years on!
Things however have not gone smoothly behind the scenes and one of the founders actively tried to ditch myself and the other founder and replace us with a poster called Largehat.
He felt apparently that the site should have ambitions to become the largest BWFC forum and not be a happy and pleasant site that we had become and what we thought our aim was in the first place.
Anyway we rode out that storm but there was always friction there since and 'games' have been going on ever since.
A number of other attempts have been made to take control of the site and all have been resisted. Other rival forums have even been set up but up failed.
Even after all of this, those behind the 'games' have been allowed to stay on the forum as frankly it is only the internet when all said and done and shouldn't be taken seriously.
God help you if you do.
One of the founders has disappeared along the way, I believe he's had health issues but even after trying extensively to see if he was ok, I (and others) have failed to contact him.
I've also invited BTID, Karly and Leeds Trotter to become Admin's and given them the same rights and authority as myself and have tried to run this site as a democracy rather than a dictatorship as I'm often accused of.
I've answered to them recently in respect of the xmiles account for instance.
So back to the original point, what is the forum's mission?
I believe and always have, that Nuts is simply a place to escape to for a few minutes from real life to catch up on Wanderers news and hopefully a bit of a laugh with other whilst you are here.
Not much to aspire to really but clearly all but impossible to achieve.
I've no problems with people having views I don't agree with but equally I wouldn't dream of banning them for holding them - so how am I able to give in to popularist pressure to ban Bob because many of you don't agree with him?
What exactly are the grounds on which to ban him - because he doesn't rate you and thinks of some/many/all of us as blockheads?
Is he trolling?
I've asked him (given him a ban) to refrain from doing so and which he seems to have abided by.
Should I simply ban him then because people don't like him?
If that's what you want then I might as go as well because if I can tolerate people trying repeatedly throw me off my own site and laugh about it then shouldn't people be laughing at Bob's post rather than frothing at the mouth in anger at them?
What do people want from the forum, me to go is that it?
Just say so and I will, I certainly won't miss the shite I have to constantly deal with to make it as open and inclusive to all, to keep the fake accounts, the trolling and the abuse to a minimum, to stand against the crowd in order to behave fairly to everyone.
I doubt anyone else will step up and keep the site fair and honest but if that's what you want I'll step away and let you get on with it.
