Mission Impossible

Norpig wrote:Would you like the Trust address so you can report me Sluffy?

No, thank you.

Have you forgotten what I posted in your defence at the time when Bob said what he did?

Quite clearly you have.

Sluffy wrote:

Ok, simple question, what reason do you want me to ban Bob for?

For being patronising?  For not being interested in your replies?  For calling people blockheads?  For having a different opinion to you?  

What exactly is the grounds you want me to ban him for?

Because Wanderlust knows everything and is never wrong, so I'd have to ban him if patronising is not allowed, Natasha has no interest in anybody's replies so he she would have to be banned too in that case, for calling people blockheads then Johnny would have to go for calling people cunt's then, for having a different opinion, well everybody will disagree with somebody sooner or later, do I ban everyone then?

So what part of my responsibility is it I'm not doing as a mod when it comes to Bob because as far as I'm concerned I'm treating him equally to everybody else?

Where is it you think I'm going wrong exactly?

As i've already said he has no interest in anyone else's views and has said as much. Why come on a forum if you have no interest in what others have to say? It kind of defeats the whole purpose of a forum doesn't it? Maybe he should start his own forum where he can spout on all day about his specialist subjects.

He has an agenda and very specific subjects he posts about that is of no interest to the majority of posters on here.

Sluffy, please could you address the issues I raised in post 3 of this thread.

Sluffy wrote:

No, thank you.

Have you forgotten what I posted in your defence at the time when Bob said what he did?

Quite clearly you have.

You may have then, but your thinly veiled dig about your time in public service and people being disciplined for looking at non work related sites seems to suggest to me that you've changed your mind.

Sluffy wrote:

You know what Johnny I don't give a fuck about you.

You're the one who came back on here with all guns blazing after not being about for months, you're the one calling people cunts, you're the one being abusive and obnoxious and looking for confrontation.

I couldn't give a toss what you think of me, I'm a cunt am I, ok, so what?

If you don't like it on here then stay away - it's that simple.

If you want to post on here then do so but you aren't above the few rules we do have.

What exactly do you or anyone else for that matter want me to ban Bob for?

Because he's not popular, is that it?

Or is it because he thinks we are blockheads?

Or because he has a view that people paid by the public purse shouldn't be on social media in what he believes to be works time?

Is it because you believe he's a cunt?

Well what reason is it then?

I'm not popular should I ban myself?

If I should ban him for calling us a blockhead then what punishment should I give when someone calls me a cunt?

When I worked in the public sector you could be disciplined for going on unauthorised sites not work related, seemed fair to me at the time.

If you think he's a cunt then you definitely proved you were one yesterday so what exactly should I be doing to mod this site fairly and equally to everyone?

Yes you certainly made a splash yesterday and made more than a few happy but a few have made it known to me that what you did yesterday doesn't sit comfortably with them.

Up to you if you want to hang about or strop off and set up Done Wandering Mk II but if you want to stay then pack in the vile abuse just because you don't agree with someone on the internet.

Ffs!

Funny how you didn't answer my question sluffy?  Pms and gdpr?

Well sluffy, you've let him chase off good people like glos, upset heroes like norpig, and all you've done is side with him because he shares a lot of the same philosophy.

Maybe I went overboard yesterday,  Maybe, but still, calling someone out who is working in the NHS for me definitely constitutes what I said.

Its only the internet sluffy. Its not real. Why you getting so wound up?  We are all fictitious accounts after all.

Maybe have a word with bonce, see what he says as to why I've not been on so much and find out why this irrelevant "80 year old" prick may have rubbed me up the wrong way.  Then go look in the mirror and ask yourself......"am I doing the right thing?"

Peace and love sluffy

Peace and love

Norpig wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

Ok, simple question, what reason do you want me to ban Bob for?

For being patronising?  For not being interested in your replies?  For calling people blockheads?  For having a different opinion to you?  

What exactly is the grounds you want me to ban him for?

Because Wanderlust knows everything and is never wrong, so I'd have to ban him if patronising is not allowed, Natasha has no interest in anybody's replies so he she would have to be banned too in that case, for calling people blockheads then Johnny would have to go for calling people cunt's then, for having a different opinion, well everybody will disagree with somebody sooner or later, do I ban everyone then?

So what part of my responsibility is it I'm not doing as a mod when it comes to Bob because as far as I'm concerned I'm treating him equally to everybody else?

Where is it you think I'm going wrong exactly?

As i've already said he has no interest in anyone else's views and has said as much. Why come on a forum if you have no interest in what others have to say? It kind of defeats the whole purpose of a forum doesn't it? Maybe he should start his own forum where he can spout on all day about his specialist subjects.

He has an agenda and very specific subjects he posts about that is of no interest to the majority of posters on here.

Then ignore him then!

Don't let him get under your skin.

It is as simple as that.

Sluffy wrote:

Then ignore him then!

Don't let him get under your skin.

It is as simple as that.

I will but how many posters are you willing to lose to keep him posting here?

Post 18 is certainly classic Sluffy!

1. He mentions me in post 1 on this thread but apparently I am the one who won't let it drop.

2. Not for the first time he conveniently fails to tell the whole truth. Every single quote he has provided was posted after I was banned for daring to argue with him not troll him. The post that he banned me for is post 43 in the Keir Starmer thread. Can anyone honestly say this is trolling? The entire post is below:

You make the totally incorrect accusation that I "posted for a reaction first and foremost" when the reason I posted was simply to ask you to justify your sweeping statement that all politicians are the same.

You now seem to have admitted that they are not by saying "of course Labour and Conservative governments do different things". So it is not a false belief that one side is better than the other.

Asking you to justify what you say is not trolling.

3. As usual he fails to provide any evidence to support his delusion. Why? How can I disprove this nonsense when he won't even tell me why he  thinks this is a fake account. Why can't he even tell us who the "real" me is supposed to be?

4. And of course he hasn't answered any of the specific questions posed by okocha.

Sluffy,

Which active moderators have the power to implement temporary or permanent bans on this site and what is the process (Eg. 3 warnings and you're out, do they need to seek your approval etc.)?

I'm not attempting to lure you into anything here, just thinking of suggesting a couple of things.

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In fact, no offence to intended but I think everyone should give Sluffy a break. I think some new guardrails need to be put in place to take the target off his back. Starting with the moderatos stepping up and doing their jobs - if they're empowered to do so.

y2johnny wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

You know what Johnny I don't give a fuck about you.

You're the one who came back on here with all guns blazing after not being about for months, you're the one calling people cunts, you're the one being abusive and obnoxious and looking for confrontation.

I couldn't give a toss what you think of me, I'm a cunt am I, ok, so what?

If you don't like it on here then stay away - it's that simple.

If you want to post on here then do so but you aren't above the few rules we do have.

What exactly do you or anyone else for that matter want me to ban Bob for?

Because he's not popular, is that it?

Or is it because he thinks we are blockheads?

Or because he has a view that people paid by the public purse shouldn't be on social media in what he believes to be works time?

Is it because you believe he's a cunt?

Well what reason is it then?

I'm not popular should I ban myself?

If I should ban him for calling us a blockhead then what punishment should I give when someone calls me a cunt?

When I worked in the public sector you could be disciplined for going on unauthorised sites not work related, seemed fair to me at the time.

If you think he's a cunt then you definitely proved you were one yesterday so what exactly should I be doing to mod this site fairly and equally to everyone?

Yes you certainly made a splash yesterday and made more than a few happy but a few have made it known to me that what you did yesterday doesn't sit comfortably with them.

Up to you if you want to hang about or strop off and set up Done Wandering Mk II but if you want to stay then pack in the vile abuse just because you don't agree with someone on the internet.

Ffs!

Funny how you didn't answer my question sluffy?  Pms and gdpr?

Well sluffy, you've let him chase off good people like glos, upset heroes like norpig, and all you've done is side with him because he shares a lot of the same philosophy.

Maybe I went overboard yesterday,  Maybe, but still, calling someone out who is working in the NHS for me definitely constitutes what I said.

Its only the internet sluffy. Its not real. Why you getting so wound up?  We are all fictitious accounts after all.

Maybe have a word with bonce, see what he says as to why I've not been on so much and find out why this irrelevant "80 year old" prick may have rubbed me up the wrong way.  Then go look in the mirror and ask yourself......"am I doing the right thing?"

Peace and love sluffy

Peace and love

The questions been answered countless times on here and by ALL the three main Administrators - I can't be arsed wasting my breath again knowing I won't be believed.  Feel free to contact the GDPR and get them to check it out, you probably won't believe them either.

I don't take this stuff seriously I do it mainly for amusement, it makes me laugh at how some people behave on here - we are only a shitty little footy forum when all said and done, nobody visits here other than ourselves and people think they can somehow tell the world where it has all going wrong and tell us all how it can be put right - yeah really!!!

Maybe I'm easily amused or perhaps I'm really sad and pathetic but one thing I'm not is taking this site as serious and in any way meaningful to my life - it isn't.

So Bob's got an opinion about someone working in the NHS, who cares, I mean really who actually cares about his opinion, it's not one I share but I'd never dream of calling him a cunt for it.  People say far worse than that and he's got a right to his opinion if you agree with it or not.

And I'm certainly not prying into your private life, if as it seems you have family issues then I'm sorry for you but you're not alone, my only brother is dependent on the NHS for his life, still doesn't give me any right to call Bob or anyone else a cunt for his views though does it?

Maybe you you should look in the mirror yourself sometimes eh?

The world's a shitty place and it's not inconceivable this Covid could finish me and my brother off before a vaccine is found and that's why I'm holed up playing about on here, hiding from it and dealing with 'screamers' like you to pass my day away.

Christ I'm trolled by fake accounts, people are after my blood because I won't ban an eighty year old who holds an opinion that paid public servants shouldn't be on social media sites during their working day and called a prick and a wanker by someone who set up a rival site aimed at closing this one down and I still let him re-join here and laughed about the past and it is me who is seen as public enemy number one!

I must either be the shittiest mod ever or have a particularly good sense of humour and not take Nuts too seriously then.

Maybe even both!!!

Shalom to you to bro.

y2johnny wrote:

This is a fucked up post that I don't know how to delete. Correct version is below.

So Sluffy clearly and concisely answered the question re a Mission Statement:

Sluffy wrote:I believe and always have, that Nuts is simply a place to escape to for a few minutes from real life to catch up on Wanderers news and hopefully a bit of a laugh with other whilst you are here.

Not much to aspire to really but clearly all but impossible to achieve.

...ok that should be "others"  but it's a good Mission Statement IMO.
I suspect we're getting a bit off mission on this thread though.

Norpig wrote:Sluffy think back to before nine bob started acting as he does and this site wasn't as bad as it is now. For some reason you have a blind spot when it comes to him, probably because you share similar views on finance etc. 

To the rest of us nine bob is a patronising person who has openly stated he has no interest in what other posters post. If that's the case then why is he here? This is a forum which i thought meant sharing and offering different opinions and having discussions when you don't agree.

It hasn't been as fun on here mainly because of nine bob but you need to take some responsibility too. You banned the likes of Okocha and xmiles for literally no reason and have have had a running battle with Lusty which has driven people like Glos away.

Just in case anyone wonders, i will probably post tomorrow but i'm not in work. Hope that helps.

finlaymcdanger wrote:Sluffy,

Which active moderators have the power to implement temporary or permanent bans on this site and what is the process (Eg. 3 warnings and you're out, do they need to seek your approval etc.)?

I'm not attempting to lure you into anything here, just thinking of suggesting a couple of things.

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In fact, no offence to intended but I think everyone should give Sluffy a break. I think some new guardrails need to be put in place to take the target off his head. Starting with the moderatos stepping up and doing their jobs if they're empowered to do so.

All the Administrators have the power to ban but in effect there's only three of us about, BTID, Karly and myself.

BTID has made it known he's not overly keen on modding.

In theory any of us can implement a 24 hour ban and in agree amongst ourselves if that is sufficient or it should be extended for a longer period.

In practise there aren't that many bans and most are for a day or even less.

If we have trouble with one particular person in theory they are given three lives and then banned permanently but I'm not here (or should that be hear) to play internet God and I give people as many chances as I can before I'm convinced they aren't going to pack it in and move on along with everyone else.

This is clearly seen by some folk as a weakness, some believe I do it because post count is all that matters - they are wrong, we don't get paid anything for doing this.

It's also clear that modding is not a precise science and there is no text book on how to mod perfectly, my view is that modding is more of an art form in knowing when to give way a bit (I don't think Johnny's behaviour was acceptable yesterday but better to let the storm ride out than to cut it short and make things worse) and knowing when to stand firm.

If we followed our own procedures to the letter there would be a number of people permanently excluded from here after the three strike rule and in all the eight or so years since we started Nuts only one person is permanently banned and that was for attempting to hack in to my personal life.

I see modding more to do with dragging people back from crossing the line too far and giving them a nudge with a short ban when they decide to be persistently abusive or to continually troll.

What other way is there for us all to move on otherwise?

To be honest I don't mind doing the bulk of the modding or having a target on my head the big problem is the games that are being played in the background which overarch all of this and adds 'flavour' to the site but also can and does damage it at times.

Bob is a real poster the xmiles account is fake but people believe the opposite, I post only as myself but people seem to believe I'm Bob, Natasha and probably others too.  The thing though it doesn't matter, believe whatever you want, it is only the internet, the problem is when people believe one side of the story then believe the others side too - and they then know that one of them has taken them for a mug.

Some might laugh at being fooled, unfortunately some will not see it as being any way funny though!

It's just the internet though, it's not meant to be taken seriously though is it?

Sluffy wrote:

The questions been answered countless times on here and by ALL the three main Administrators - I can't be arsed wasting my breath again knowing I won't be believed.  Feel free to contact the GDPR and get them to check it out, you probably won't believe them either.

I don't take this stuff seriously I do it mainly for amusement, it makes me laugh at how some people behave on here - we are only a shitty little footy forum when all said and done, nobody visits here other than ourselves and people think they can somehow tell the world where it has all going wrong and tell us all how it can be put right - yeah really!!!

Maybe I'm easily amused or perhaps I'm really sad and pathetic but one thing I'm not is taking this site as serious and in any way meaningful to my life - it isn't.

So Bob's got an opinion about someone working in the NHS, who cares, I mean really who actually cares about his opinion, it's not one I share but I'd never dream of calling him a cunt for it.  People say far worse than that and he's got a right to his opinion if you agree with it or not.

And I'm certainly not prying into your private life, if as it seems you have family issues then I'm sorry for you but you're not alone, my only brother is dependent on the NHS for his life, still doesn't give me any right to call Bob or anyone else a cunt for his views though does it?

Maybe you you should look in the mirror yourself sometimes eh?

The world's a shitty place and it's not inconceivable this Covid could finish me and my brother off before a vaccine is found and that's why I'm holed up playing about on here, hiding from it and dealing with 'screamers' like you to pass my day away.

Christ I'm trolled by fake accounts, people are after my blood because I won't ban an eighty year old who holds an opinion that paid public servants shouldn't be on social media sites during their working day and called a prick and a wanker by someone who set up a rival site aimed at closing this one down and I still let him re-join here and laughed about the past and it is me who is seen as public enemy number one!

I must either be the shittiest mod ever or have a particularly good sense of humour and not take Nuts too seriously then.

Maybe even both!!!

Shalom to you to bro.

Contact GDPR?  GEEZ!  wow.

No family problems, nice assumption.

Always you trolled.....by xmiles, by lusty, by troy, by bread.......there's a common denominator in there somewhere.

Tenbob is MORE THAN Disrespectful to a lot of the members on here, in fact, everyone other then yourself and bonce.

Okay he doesn't lower the tone as much as I do, so what, he's still pissing off a lot of people and causing you to lose good posters.

So Saint sluffy, I know you don't take anything personally, its only the internet after all, but you seem to have taken an almost trump like stance, ignoring facts and spouting rubbish.

Anyway, enjoy your forum, i know it doesn't mean anything to you, it's just fun and nothing is real!  Are any of us real.....I'm certainly confused by who is who.......