MK Dons 0-2 Bolton

Ten Bobsworth wrote:I believe that you are right, Sluffy, and that there was an anti-Anderson network involving Holdsworth, Iles and the ST whose roots lay in the Beeno's anti-Davies and anti-Gartside stance. Sam Allardyce was linked-in too as evidenced by the unnecessary, erroneous and malevolent claims in his book.

But I suspect that there was more to Holdsworth joining forces with the ST and Iles solely in an anti-Anderson united front. I wouldn't expect Dean Holdsworth to put himself out without some personal  incentive but did someone owe him a favour for any reason, I wonder?

Think about it.

wanderlust wrote:We may indeed have got a reprieve from the winding up order as Bury FC did and we may well have still existed in some form or other without Holdsworth's vainglorious attempt to keep us going - and as you say, who knows who might have bought us. But that's not what actually happened.

As for the original 1885 Bury Football Club Company Ltd, they remain in administration under the ownership of Steve Dale and are in an ongoing dispute with Bury AFC and several other interest groups.

More to the point, the proposed answer to Bob's question lies in what the Unibol think, not me.

wanderlust wrote:An equally valid question is what would have happened to BWFC if Holdsworth/Sport Shield hadn't intervened?

Fact is, the winding up order was due to be heard and we were staring down the barrel with no hope of survival.

wanderlust wrote:More to the point, the proposed answer to Bob's question lies in what the Unibol think, not me.

wanderlust wrote:I think Dean Holdsworth is a prick but I'm grateful for what he did.

Sluffy wrote:So no, Holdsworth's intervention certainly did not save us from oblivion at that point in time.

And therefore, your gratitude to him for saving the club is misplaced.

Sluffy wrote:


All water under the bridge now though and I have no idea why the high and mighty at the University of Bolton saw fit to honour him unless they to also erroneously (like Wanderlust) believed he really saved the club from oblivion???

Ten Bobsworth wrote:Think about what activity Holdsworth was involved in outside of his interest in getting hold of BWFC and its hotel for nowt, Sluffy.

There were three Sports Shield companies and a website. All were recently formed and they weren't worth a bean until a large influx of cash came along in 2015/16.

All the money's gone now and the companies don't exist but where did this money come from? Was it all the result of his 50P investment. I'm not too sure about that.

Natasha Whittam wrote:And here we go again.

Unsticky this thread and sticky the Peterborough thread you massive mod bellends.

Natasha Whittam wrote:Bob, you do like to dwell on the past.

Life is short, don't waste it banging on about things you can't change.

It's a lovely afternoon, take Lady Bobsworth out somewhere nice.

boltonbonce wrote:
Buy her a nice pair of slippers. They're never out of fashion.

wanderlust wrote:
Sluffy did this to death before you were around Bob so rather than go over it all again, perhaps he could direct you to the relevant threads/archives?

Ten Bobsworth wrote:Think about what activity Holdsworth was involved in outside of his interest in getting hold of BWFC and its hotel for nowt, Sluffy.

There were three Sports Shield companies and a website. All were recently formed and they weren't worth a bean until a large influx of cash came along in 2015/16.

All the money's gone now and the companies don't exist but where did this money come from? Was it all the result of his 50P investment. I'm not too sure about that.

Saving the club from oblivion? Nah, nah a thousand times nah.

Sluffy wrote:

I'm sorry Bob, I must have forgotten, or never knew.

A quick look at their accounts shows that £420,250 was advanced to Sports Sheild Ltd by a related party transaction under common control and I guess that was paid to Sports Shield BWFC (was that the amount Anderson put into Sports Sheild in order to get majority control over BWFC to sort out the BluMarble mess?).

It's all history now, we have moved on to the mystery of what FV is all about!

Ten Bobsworth wrote:The point I would make, Sluffy, is that Bolton supporters have been treated to years of unadulterated hogwash that large numbers seemed to believe without question. Its the fact that they still seem to be fed on blather and still seem to swallow it that make it relevant.

Following the money is tricky and too complex for most not least because several documents have proved to be incomplete or unreliable.

But the point I was making was why was Dean Holdsworth honoured by Unibol just over a year ago. Would it be because of someone who is still active in relation to BWFC who has put in a good word or two?

It doesn't really seem to be on merit, does it?

Sluffy wrote:

I would not have honoured him that is for sure but who knows how the high and mighty and the University think?

Iirc didn't his citation make no mention of ever being involved with BWFC so I wouldn't think that was an element in their decision making.  Also didn't they also honour some random and obscure TV actor at the same time?

My thinking fwiw is that it is the University in some way they are getting a benefit to them in some way rather than the other way around of honouring those they think worthy - maybe you can purchase an honour from them perhaps, I don't know?

As for who is still connected to BWFC (or at least at the time of the 'award') I don't know who that could be - they would also have to have some sway over the awarding panel to achieve something like that.

Who knows, who cares, I can't see Holdsworth gaining much from being honored (I don't even think the Bolton News even reported on it) and what good as it done the University?

According to this league table it shows Bolton University being ranked 124th out of a total of 130 universities - not very good really is it if so!

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Sluffy wrote:Do you still want us to go ahead with Sunday's announcement as to your award as Nuts Poster of the Season for 2021/22 or do you want us to refund the £100 you sent?