Keith Andrews: DON'T BOO US!

Boggersbelief wrote:

I was about to apologise, Natasha had to make the thread about her as usual.

Not at all, I picked up on your ridiculous point earlier in the thread - you are against booing the players but see nothing wrong with perving at women.

This sort of thing has always made me laugh. It seems that when certain people walk through the turnstilles the rules of life are overtaken by some bizarre set of football rules.

These players get paid millions, rarely put in 100% effort, most can't even do the basics properly, yet some people still want to appluad them off the pitch - just because they are wearing the white shirt. It's total madness. They aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart, they're doing it for themselves because it's their job. Most players would jump ship quicker than you can say "big tits" if they were offered £10 more to play for someone else.

You have two choices as a football fan to make it clear a performance is unacceptable 1) vote with your feet and miss the next match or 2) boo.

Surely if you don't do either you are saying to the players - I accept that performance.

If your favourite restaurant suddenly went downhill and started serving shite you'd either complain or go elsewhere. If your barber shaved your head when all you asked for was a trim you'd complain or go elsewhere in future. Why not at football?

FFS! Keith Andrews? Boooooooooooooooooooooo!

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Boggersbelief wrote:

I was about to apologise, Natasha had to make the thread about her as usual.

Not at all, I picked up on your ridiculous point earlier in the thread - you are against booing the players but see nothing wrong with perving at women.

This sort of thing has always made me laugh. It seems that when certain people walk through the turnstilles the rules of life are overtaken by some bizarre set of football rules.

These players get paid millions, rarely put in 100% effort, most can't even do the basics properly, yet some people still want to appluad them off the pitch - just because they are wearing the white shirt. It's total madness. They aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart, they're doing it for themselves because it's their job. Most players would jump ship quicker than you can say "big tits" if they were offered £10 more to play for someone else.

You have two choices as a football fan to make it clear a performance is unacceptable 1) vote with your feet and miss the next match or 2) boo.

Surely if you don't do either you are saying to the players - I accept that performance.

If your favourite restaurant suddenly went downhill and started serving shite you'd either complain or go elsewhere. If your barber shaved your head when all you asked for was a trim you'd complain or go elsewhere in future. Why not at football?

I just feel that you should leave the booing to children, unfortunately for me that leaves no option for me to show my displeasure at the shower of shite I pay to watch week in week out. If we play poorly, I am over it the next morning, I will go to watch my team even if we are relegated again, Thats just how it is.

Although it does annoy me when you get cunts like Andrews advising the fans, maybe he should concentrate on his own job, or advise bogdan how to command his area, sordell how to go a day without using twitter or even advise zat knight to fuck off back to villa!

John McGinlay Appears to have hit back with the following article:

"Show some passion and fans will get back onside" - And he is totally correct!

IT’S not exactly been a happy Christmas for Wanderers fans with two defeats to teams low down the table.

The Boxing Day loss at home to Sheffield Wednesday was poor.

We only had one attempt on target in the first half and the next was in the 70th minute – that’s just not good enough for a squad like ours.

The fans let their feelings known and I can understand they are frustrated; I was sitting among them at the Reebok and you can sense how nervous everyone is, on and off the field.



The Wednesday fans were great – like ours are away from home – but our fans don’t know what to expect when they turn up at the Reebok these days.

And it is sure to be the same again tomorrow against Birmingham.

We just need to see some passion out there because that can get the crowd going as well.

Put a few tackles in and show desire and the supporters will get behind you even if things aren’t going to plan.

On Wednesday, without Kevin Davies, there was really only Jay Spearing (pictured right) putting a tackle in.

What you have to remember in this league, or in any game, is that you have to earn the right to play and win games. You have to win the battles before the war.


I don’t think we have been playing that well. Even against Charlton, it was the substitutes who changed the game in the last 20 minutes.
There is no consistency and we’ve not hit a vein of form. Confidence is clearly low and it seems that if things don’t go well in the first 10 minutes, it affects everyone in the ground.

I have heard players say it hurts them as well but they need to show how much on the pitch. As a footballer, it doesn’t always go the way you want with your own performance in games but that is when you try even harder.

One thing that should never wane is work-rate; it should always be 100 per cent and a bit more when it’s not going right for you.

When the chips are down, you show the fans some fight and I don’t think as a collective we have been doing that.

It is no good saying it affects you when it doesn’t go to plan; show it on the park because actions speak louder than words.

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JANUARY is going to be a big month for Dougie Freedman.

The transfer window is a saving grace because there definitely needs to be some changes made.

It is apparent we need players with more experience of this league as a lot of the current squad looks to be struggling to adapt.

Hopefully the manager can do something about that, but it all depends what resources are there for him and how much money is available.

You could get funds in by selling players, but how many of ours have shown enough to attract any interest? You could say someone like Mark Davies, but he is injured at the minute and it is unlikely someone would bid for an injured player.

I just hope we can get some new faces in to shake it up a bit. It is crucial for Dougie because this is his chance to start to build his team.

He can put his mark on it for the first time with his own players.

He has had plenty of time now to assess the squad and know what he wants. It will be interesting to see what he does in the market.

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IT’S the final game of the year against Birmingham and like all Wanderers fans I will be glad to see the back of 2012.

To say it’s been a bad one for us is an understatement!

Hopefully the new year will be a new start for us.

We have had a change in manager and not a lot has changed yet with regards to league position.

But the transfer market opens next week and we are still only eight points off the play-offs, which have to be the target for us now.

We may be nearer the bottom but I don’t think there is any danger of us going down again.

Things do need to turn around quickly, though, particularly at home.

If just a few of the draws were turned into wins, we could be up there.

The Reebok should be a fortress and we should be unbeaten at home.

If we can start by changing that in 2013, we will hopefully all have a better year.

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THE sacking of Henning Berg up the road at Blackburn just shows how crazy football has become.

How can you give someone 10 games and then get rid of them? It is madness.

I admit, I thought it was a strange appointment at the time and that there were better candidates out there.

But then to push the panic button is suicide for me. How can you question someone when they haven’t even had the chance to get their own players in?

It was almost as mad what happened with Sean O’Driscoll at Nottingham Forest – and he won on Boxing Day before he was given the push.

I think all this is linked to the increase in the television money Premier League clubs will be paid next season by Sky.

Every club is panicking about missing out on that and desperate to be pushing to be in the top tier next season to have a share of it.

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NOW I am not playing anymore, there is more time to enjoy Christmas.

People may not believe me, though, but I still miss playing at this time of year.

I got used to it over so many years.

We used to open presents at home on Christmas Day then go and train, before going home for dinner with the family and then off to a hotel or on our travels.

It was the norm for me so it didn’t bother me.

I now get to do what everyone else does at Christmas, but it doesn’t stop me missing being out there playing.

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And there you have the difference between McGinlay and a modern day ponce like Keith Andrews. Players 20 years ago knew they had to earn the fans backing, the ponces today expect it.

And all because society has turned very average footballers into heroes. 20 years ago Keith Andrews would have had a username on here and spent Saturday afternoon in his bedroom making dolls out of stolen y-fronts like the rest of you.

Great article By SuperJohn. He is absolutely spot on.