Street Justice

I agree we're too soft on the criminals, but what if you were a victim of this 'street justice' that you think is so good. When vigilantes start roaming the streets handing our 'street justice' we are all available for a battering, or worse, for whatever reason. It's called anarchy. The start of this would be the disregard of others rights, or even there lives.

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Matthew.



This man has probably had a very difficult life unlike others who enjoy the finer things. Ok he was an habitual criminal and I'm quite sure that if he had gone to prison for his offence he would have come out and re-offended. Apparently he had a drug problem in the past and was an alcoholic.

It is all to easy to sit back and condemn others without knowing any of the background. How would we have turned out had we had a similar upbringing? Maybe he has been failed by his parents or his school or the probation service or maybe he's had every chance and was just a wrong un.

Whatever, he was a human being and should always have been treated as such and most certainly did not deserve to die for his silly 'hold-up' attempt.

I remember once being in a shop in Bolton and an old man collapsed in the door-way. He looked like what used to be called a tramp. The other people in the shop thought this disgraceful and wanted the shop-keeper to call the police. The lady shop-keeper was wonderful, with a look of disgust at these fools she said 'you don't know what this man has been through in his life' and turning to me she said 'walk a mile in my shoes'. I'll never forget that afternoon and always try to remember those wise words (before I think of judging others) walk a mile in my shoes.

Good advice. If you walk a mile in somebody elses shoes you will be a mile away from them and have a new pair of shoes.

The vast majority of people who have a rough upbringing / life don't go around with guns robbing folk.

Not everyone with a privileged and happy upbringing turnout to be good either.

He went out with malice aforethought and got his comeuppance.

If he had not gone out with a gun he would probably be alive now.

The moral being - If you go out with a gun don't come crying if you get shot!

I'm giving this some thought after reading the rest.

Angry Dad wrote:I'm giving this some thought after reading the rest.

He might have been better off borrowing your shotgun.

chipbutty wrote:
This man has probably had a very difficult life unlike others who enjoy the finer things. Ok he was an habitual criminal and I'm quite sure that if he had gone to prison for his offence he would have come out and re-offended. Apparently he had a drug problem in the past and was an alcoholic.

It is all to easy to sit back and condemn others without knowing any of the background. How would we have turned out had we had a similar upbringing? Maybe he has been failed by his parents or his school or the probation service or maybe he's had every chance and was just a wrong un.

Whatever, he was a human being and should always have been treated as such and most certainly did not deserve to die for his silly 'hold-up' attempt.

I usually agree with a lot of your posts, but this is bollocks.

Everything you've said in your post you could say about Ian Huntley or Ian Brady. Do they deserve our sympathy?

Nat you're getting hung up on the word "sympathy"

I'm, personally, saying that isn't my idea of justice, it's nothing to do with sympathy.

Listen pals, he's in a body bag now, lets leave it at that, unless anyone wants to join him?

Whatever went down someone died , there's going to trouble for someone over this. One or more probably caused this mans death, it doesn't take four men to hold down a sick fifty year old man with breathing difficulties also leaving a mask on his face to add to that was an unusual thing to do. Sounds like the guy was dissarmed

so no need for four men crushing the life out of him . Excessive force was probably used as they would be hyped up, over the top I reckon and trouble in the air, don't know about heroes just yet.

Is he wearing our home kit in that photo?...

Natasha Whittam wrote:
** Expect a statement from his family within 24 hours saying what a great guy he was!

Thought you might enjoy this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21220658


"He was staying off the drugs, he had the whole family behind him.

"The last time I saw him was Thursday evening. He went out fishing and he came back with a big smile on his face."

Ha ha, thanks for that. I bloody knew it would happen, everyone who dies is automatically a "top bloke" or "great lady". Brilliant.

Perhaps we should all hold a minutes silence on Bolton Nuts as a mark of respect?

Lofty_Love wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:
** Expect a statement from his family within 24 hours saying what a great guy he was!

Thought you might enjoy this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21220658


"He was staying off the drugs, he had the whole family behind him.

"The last time I saw him was Thursday evening. He went out fishing and he came back with a big smile on his face."

He looks like such a decent fella too...............

I've only been fishing once and the fact he came hom with a smile on his face makes me think it wasn't fishing that put a smile on his face.

aaron_bwfc wrote:

I've only been fishing once and the fact he came hom with a smile on his face makes me think it wasn't fishing that put a smile on his face.

You've clearly never hooked a big trout. And I don't mean in Illusions.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I can do what i want thanks.

I don't feel good about any deaths.

Are you saying that my Grandad shouldn't have been too happy when Adolf went down badly?

Natasha Whittam wrote:Ha ha, thanks for that. I bloody knew it would happen, everyone who dies is automatically a "top bloke" or "great lady". Brilliant.

I look forward to being a "top bloke" when my life's work is done!!!

More fantastic "street justice". Two chavs stole an Audi in Salford last night and ended up crashing it and killing themselves. No trial. No lenient sentence. No wasted taxpayer money. No growing into a serial killer or rapist as they probably would have. Brilliant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-21377614

Give it 24 hours and the families will be telling the world what "great kids they were, they wouldn't harm a fly".

Natasha Whittam wrote:More fantastic "street justice". Two chavs stole an Audi in Salford last night and ended up crashing it and killing themselves. No trial. No lenient sentence. No wasted taxpayer money. No growing into a serial killer or rapist as they probably would have. Brilliant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-21377614

Give it 24 hours and the families will be telling the world what "great kids they were, they wouldn't harm a fly".