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Should People Planning Attrocities Be Charged With Treason?

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scottjames30
Banks of the Croal
Lyric Todkill
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bwfc71
Hipster_Nebula
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Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Should the nob heads that plot destruction on society be charged with treason and suffer the consequences? I refer specifically to the three rswipes that planned to visit 70 virgins after blowing themselves up and taking innocent people with them. At what cost will their upkeep be to the tax payer?

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Is this another thread about killing people whatever the crime?

Like i've said before if you're bothered about "the cost" then surely you want to see all crims just beheaded.

bwfc71

bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Doesn't Treason still carry the death penalty?

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

bwfc71 wrote:Doesn't Treason still carry the death penalty?
My research seems to point that way, and to answer hipster why should we support the people that want to harm us by giving them food, a roof over their heads and heating when some of the less fortunate in society and those that have worked all their lives and retired struggle? Off with their heads, and bollox first if you like!

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Hipster_Nebula wrote:Is this another thread about killing people whatever the crime?

Like i've said before if you're bothered about "the cost" then surely you want to see all crims just beheaded.


I would imagine it is about this -

Three would-be suicide bombers who plotted to carry out an attack to rival the 7 July and 9/11 atrocities have been found guilty of terrorism charges.

Jurors were told they planned to set off up to eight bombs in rucksacks, using timers to detonate the charges.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21534048

Tbh I can't see the point of us keeping them alive at our expense for the rest of their lives when they had in mind blowing themselves up and as many innocent people that they could!

Just cut out the innocent victims - and let them blow themselves up and it seems to me that everybody just about got what they wished for.

Seems about fair to me.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Is this another thread about killing people whatever the crime?

Like i've said before if you're bothered about "the cost" then surely you want to see all crims just beheaded.


Hipster, it's people just like you that have created the society we live in, where criminals have "rights" and the death penalty is "cruel".

I'd bring back the death penalty for all major crimes. Watch the crime rate drop overnight.

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Natasha Whittam wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:Is this another thread about killing people whatever the crime?

Like i've said before if you're bothered about "the cost" then surely you want to see all crims just beheaded.


Hipster, it's people just like you that have created the society we live in, where criminals have "rights" and the death penalty is "cruel".

I'd bring back the death penalty for all major crimes. Watch the crime rate drop overnight.
Nat, I'm right behind you on this one!
Sluffy, you nailed it exactly.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

But why keep anyone "alive at our expense"

Surely you're just as pissed off at someone who's locked up for a frivolous thing such as repeated shoplifting or vandalism?

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

I sometimes wonder does PC stand for Politically Correct or Pompous Cnut?

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Soul Kitchen wrote:I sometimes wonder does PC stand for Politically Correct or Pompous Cnut?

I think it's a bit much to say someones a cunt because they happen to not agree with the death penalty.

It's as simple as that.

The other point is just a question i always see people banging on about "our cost" and "our expense" well ALL prisoners are at "our cost" so all i ask is doesn't that make you fundamentally against the idea of prison.

Tigermin


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Soul Kitchen wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:Is this another thread about killing people whatever the crime?

Like i've said before if you're bothered about "the cost" then surely you want to see all crims just beheaded.


Hipster, it's people just like you that have created the society we live in, where criminals have "rights" and the death penalty is "cruel".

I'd bring back the death penalty for all major crimes. Watch the crime rate drop overnight.
Nat, I'm right behind you on this one!
Sluffy, you nailed it exactly.

First Political Party that re instates the death penalty for murderers,paedos,rapists and Tony Blair will piss the next election !!

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:But why keep anyone "alive at our expense"

Surely you're just as pissed off at someone who's locked up for a frivolous thing such as repeated shoplifting or vandalism?


Nope. There are vicious crimes and there are non vicious crimes.

For example, that poor railway guard who got 5 years for not knowing some pissed up chav was going to hold onto the train. The law says he killed someone, but he isn't a danger to society.

That guy who killed those two cops is a danger to society so he would be for the chop.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

So you're happy to pay for someone who robs lidel every month to have free food and "HD tv and playstation"?

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:So you're happy to pay for someone who robs lidel every month to have free food and "HD tv and playstation"?

I wouldn't say I was happy, but the chav who robs Lidl has a better chance of turning his life around and not reoffending than some cop killer.

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Hipster_Nebula wrote:
Soul Kitchen wrote:I sometimes wonder does PC stand for Politically Correct or Pompous Cnut?

I think it's a bit much to say someones a cunt because they happen to not agree with the death penalty.

It's as simple as that.

The other point is just a question i always see people banging on about "our cost" and "our expense" well ALL prisoners are at "our cost" so all i ask is doesn't that make you fundamentally against the idea of prison.
I made a general statement, PC as applied to a person's behaviour, I have found, given my age and the ever changing World, that the characteristics are one and the same. Sorry if that offends.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I'm just interested how people reconcile that POV thats all.

I'm not saying whether i agree or not.

I think there are a lot of problems with the prison service too btw.

Just happen not to agree with Death penalty.

Bernard Dennis Park

Bernard Dennis Park
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Scum like this deserve to die.

I'd just throw them in a cell and let them starve.

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Premeditated child killers like Robert Black should be tortured until they admit to all their heinous crimes. Likewise terrorists, who blow up innocent people just to make a point against democracy should never be allowed to live a long comfortable life in prison.

Unless you are a parent of a child who suffered a terrible death at the hands of some evil person, it is quite easy to take the moral high ground but if some nutter killed one of my children and got off with it at court then I would do everything in my power to make sure that the bastard suffered a horrible death. It wouldn't bring my child back but it would make me feel better knowing that the scumbag would never hurt another human being again.

And if I got caught? Three meals a day plus full medical treatment for any illnesses or ailments would be a small price to pay.

Lyric Todkill

Lyric Todkill
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Soul Kitchen wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:Doesn't Treason still carry the death penalty?
My research seems to point that way, and to answer hipster why should we support the people that want to harm us by giving them food, a roof over their heads and heating when some of the less fortunate in society and those that have worked all their lives and retired struggle? Off with their heads, and bollox first if you like!

The death penalty was abolished for treason in 1998

European law, you know, prohibits it's reinstatement

Banks of the Croal

Banks of the Croal
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Not particularly bothered about how much it cost's to keep the scum off the streets and away from doing us any harm.

Should think large amounts of money would've already been spent on gaining evidence and the trial anyway.

Yes i'd still go for the death Penalty in this case... because to me they are terrorists and Spies working against the good and well being of our Country.

So fuck em Hang the Fuckers.

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