Secret filming from Reading fans of our Stewards escorting one of their fans out - What do you guys think? Excessive?
The Stewards
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waynagain
Hipster_Nebula
Copper Dragon
ROGUEMANNY
NickFazer
aaron_bwfc
BoltonTillIDie
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2 Re: The Stewards Sun Aug 11 2013, 20:33
aaron_bwfc
Moderator
Not really, the guy has obviously been a bit of a dick.
3 Re: The Stewards Sun Aug 11 2013, 20:33
NickFazer
El Hadji Diouf
Got a reputation for being over enthusiastic too say the least.
4 Re: The Stewards Sun Aug 11 2013, 20:56
ROGUEMANNY
Mario Jardel
No need for the grip round the neck or the pushing in that position.
There was no aggression shown by the Reading fan and he seemed to be leaving with no issue
There was no aggression shown by the Reading fan and he seemed to be leaving with no issue
5 Re: The Stewards Sun Aug 11 2013, 22:43
Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Why obviously?aaron_bwfc wrote:Not really, the guy has obviously been a bit of a dick.
To me some of them in the orange jackets look like typical 'dicks'.
I never saw that sort of thing when 3,000 plus Burnley fans turned up.
It looked to me like they were bullying a younger, smaller Reading fan because they could get away with it.
6 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 16:21
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
I'm not casting aspersions on fat skinheads being thugs at all, but it's interesting that all the stewards are fat and skinheads.
7 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 16:30
aaron_bwfc
Moderator
So you have seen every steward that works for Bolton have you? I know quite a lot of the stewards that work at the reebok and most of them are decent lads.Hipster_Nebula wrote:I'm not casting aspersions on fat skinheads being thugs at all, but it's interesting that all the stewards are fat and skinheads.
Don't get me wrong some are jobsworths, but i'm sure that's the case at most football clubs.
8 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 16:52
waynagain
Tony Kelly
A Bolton Steward once told me I was not allowed to take photos inside the stadium.
10 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 17:17
doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Stewards are like any humans presented with power over others. Coppers, teachers, traffic wardens...
In fairness, you get some pitiful individuals attending football matches, particularly travelling ones.
In fairness, you get some pitiful individuals attending football matches, particularly travelling ones.
11 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 17:32
Sluffy
Admin
As for the steward, I must be in a very small minority and can't see much if anything he's supposed to have done wrong.
I would assume that he had the right to eject anybody misbehaving from the ground and this would entail using reasonable force to do so.
We have no idea what so ever took place prior to the video other than somebody's say so, who posted the video in the first place - so obviously someone with the Reading crowd - and thus we have no knowledge what provocation or abuse the steward had endured prior to escorting the 'fan' out of the ground - for all we know the fan could have been wilfully avoiding existing the ground for quite a considerable time hence the need to physically escort him outside.
I doubt the Reading fan was even bruised during the ejection, let alone actually hurt.
It's become extremely fashionable these days to have a pop at anybody in any sort of authority such as the police, stewards or even mods on footy forums but the bottom line is that if people didn't act in a way to spoil things for other folk in the first place then there would be no need for anyone having to sort things out and clear up their shit.
I don't doubt doormen up and down the country ejected tons of people from pubs and clubs that same night in a more shall we say 'forceful' manner and I bet not a single word about it has since been said.
Back in my day visiting supporters thought to be taking a 'liberty' were dealt with in a very different way - and not by any stewards!
Mountain out of a molehill imo.
I would assume that he had the right to eject anybody misbehaving from the ground and this would entail using reasonable force to do so.
We have no idea what so ever took place prior to the video other than somebody's say so, who posted the video in the first place - so obviously someone with the Reading crowd - and thus we have no knowledge what provocation or abuse the steward had endured prior to escorting the 'fan' out of the ground - for all we know the fan could have been wilfully avoiding existing the ground for quite a considerable time hence the need to physically escort him outside.
I doubt the Reading fan was even bruised during the ejection, let alone actually hurt.
It's become extremely fashionable these days to have a pop at anybody in any sort of authority such as the police, stewards or even mods on footy forums but the bottom line is that if people didn't act in a way to spoil things for other folk in the first place then there would be no need for anyone having to sort things out and clear up their shit.
I don't doubt doormen up and down the country ejected tons of people from pubs and clubs that same night in a more shall we say 'forceful' manner and I bet not a single word about it has since been said.
Back in my day visiting supporters thought to be taking a 'liberty' were dealt with in a very different way - and not by any stewards!
Mountain out of a molehill imo.
12 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 19:20
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
I just meant looking at that video.aaron_bwfc wrote:So you have seen every steward that works for Bolton have you? I know quite a lot of the stewards that work at the reebok and most of them are decent lads.Hipster_Nebula wrote:I'm not casting aspersions on fat skinheads being thugs at all, but it's interesting that all the stewards are fat and skinheads.
Don't get me wrong some are jobsworths, but i'm sure that's the case at most football clubs.
13 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 19:50
Keegan
Admin
No film of what he did to get an escort out of the stadium? Not enough information, I'm afraid.
14 Re: The Stewards Mon Aug 12 2013, 20:31
SKDArmy
Nicky Hunt
I completely agree and even when the lad is restrained it is because he threatening to hit the stewardSluffy wrote:As for the steward, I must be in a very small minority and can't see much if anything he's supposed to have done wrong.
I would assume that he had the right to eject anybody misbehaving from the ground and this would entail using reasonable force to do so.
We have no idea what so ever took place prior to the video other than somebody's say so, who posted the video in the first place - so obviously someone with the Reading crowd - and thus we have no knowledge what provocation or abuse the steward had endured prior to escorting the 'fan' out of the ground - for all we know the fan could have been wilfully avoiding existing the ground for quite a considerable time hence the need to physically escort him outside.
I doubt the Reading fan was even bruised during the ejection, let alone actually hurt.
It's become extremely fashionable these days to have a pop at anybody in any sort of authority such as the police, stewards or even mods on footy forums but the bottom line is that if people didn't act in a way to spoil things for other folk in the first place then there would be no need for anyone having to sort things out and clear up their shit.
I don't doubt doormen up and down the country ejected tons of people from pubs and clubs that same night in a more shall we say 'forceful' manner and I bet not a single word about it has since been said.
Back in my day visiting supporters thought to be taking a 'liberty' were dealt with in a very different way - and not by any stewards!
Mountain out of a molehill imo.
15 Re: The Stewards Tue Aug 13 2013, 00:06
Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Sluffy wrote:As for the steward, I must be in a very small minority and can't see much if anything he's supposed to have done wrong.
I would assume that he had the right to eject anybody misbehaving from the ground and this would entail using reasonable force to do so.
Have you even watched that video or what?
The Reading fan is getting escorted out and when he gets to the exit that dick in the orange grips him around the neck pushes him. When outside he's jostled about and pushed up against the wall. This all happens as the Reading fan has his hands up in a submissive nature.
I'm sure that the Reading fan wasn't hurt or bruised but if you think that it's just about whether a person is injured or not then I think that you're quite mental.
Them tossers in the orange are getting paid for a day out, we don't have them sort at t'Turf. We have young lads and lasses who show the walk ons to their seats, stop folk smoking in the toilets and keep the gangways clear.
If there's any aggro then they notify the police and they deal with it.
16 Re: The Stewards Tue Aug 13 2013, 00:53
Sluffy
Admin
Yes I watched it and maybe I am mental.
Two things I am certain of though - we don't know what happened leading up to the ejection, and the steward will have had full security training and thus be licensed - indeed is probably an employee of a security company contracted by the club.
I've done more damage to myself shaving - I bet you have too - than anything that this sweet little angel, butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, Reading fan encountered with his acquaintance with the steward.
If he had left the ground - like everybody else managed to do - without the need of the assistance of the stewards, then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
No doubt he will be trying to get some 'no win, no fee' lawyer to take on his compensation claim that his Human Rights have been breached or something.
Nice to hear that the youngsters at the Moor keep helping you and the other elderly Clarets to your seats though.
People do tend to wander off frequently when they get to our age Copper and it is a bugger sometimes remembering the way back!
17 Re: The Stewards Tue Aug 13 2013, 01:34
Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
You keep going on about how much damage or injury may have been caused when it's not about that.
Of course we don't know what the Reading fan did to be ejected from the ground. What is quite clear though is that he was escorted through the concourse with no problem and it was only when they got outside that there was a problem. Whatever the Reading fan did, it wasn't serious enough to drag him from the stand and carry him through the concourse or to involve the police.
Fat bald headed bullies.
Of course we don't know what the Reading fan did to be ejected from the ground. What is quite clear though is that he was escorted through the concourse with no problem and it was only when they got outside that there was a problem. Whatever the Reading fan did, it wasn't serious enough to drag him from the stand and carry him through the concourse or to involve the police.
Fat bald headed bullies.
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