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Bolton Rejects + some other blokes 4 Moldova 0

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Sturridge may have cried off, but it was both interesting (and depressing!) watching Cahill and Wilshere last night. Cahill has matured into a great CB and it's amazing how good he is when paired with another solid CB - in this case Allardyce transfer cock-up Jagielka who we could have snapped up for £1million in 2005 if Sam had seen his potential as a CB when we were briefly linked to him.
Cahill was rock solid and positionally sound, still pushing on as he did with us but not having to dive about making last ditch tackles and interceptions all the time. Put him in a solid back four and he's a diamond. Gutted when we sold him so cheaply instead of building around him at the back.
Wilshere still looks like a crock waiting to happen, but it didn't prevent him getting stuck in and playing with real class despite obviously being worried about his knee.
Moldova never got a look in up front and better teams (like Ukraine on Tuesday) will present more of a challenge in that respect, but watching them play last night gave the impression they now have the confidence to face anyone. They were both big fish in a small pond when they played for us, and a richer club would have done everything possible to keep them or in Sturridge and Wilshere's case, nick them on a permanent basis.
And wasn't Ricky Lambert great for a guy who's spent most of his career playing for the likes of Stockport, Macclesfield and Rochdale? Didn't look at all out of place.
I think the moral of this tale is that it's unlikely we'd ever get a child prodigy like Wilshere unless we spotted him first, but Sturridge was surplus to requirements at City and was doable, Cahill just needed a more stable defence around him, Jagielka was good as a midfielder but so much better as CB and there's still low cost talent in the lower divisions so in theory it's not impossible for a club of limited means to build a superb team if the manager has the nous and vision and the backing of the board.

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

The game on Tuesday will be much more of a challenge but I agree with your comments.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Moldova would struggle in League 1, not sure your comments carry much weight.

I fully expect Cahill, Wilshere & Co to bottle it in the Ukraine just like they always do.

Once a BWFC bottler, always a bottler I'm afraid.

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Have we got any players at all that wont bottle it on the big stage at the club ?

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

scottjames30 wrote:Have we got any players at all that wont bottle it on the big stage at the club ?

Does Tony Kelly count?

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Moldova are no whipping boys though and have improved recently until this game. They lost 0-1 against Montenegro, 2-1 against Ukraine and drew 1-1 with Poland. I think they'd be fine in Division 1.

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

When Wilshere left Bolton.

Some Bolton fans "he's not that good anyway"

When Sturridge left.

"he's too selfish"

When Cahill left

"he was our worst defender anyway"

Bolton fans... priceless.

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Wilshere did ok, but didn't look anything like the player we see today. He was in and out of the team during his spell.

Sturridge was good, way too good for us.

We got a great deal for Cahill, he wasn't that good, he was just as guilty as Knight for the shit defending. Even now at Chelsea he still lets the ball bounce rather than attacking it, it's just that he has better and quicker players to cover for his mistakes than he did at Bolton.

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Natasha Whittam wrote:We got a great deal for Cahill
We got the bare minimum for Cahill because his contract was mis managed. I think he was better than you give him credit for, but the most important thing is the fact the media rated him. Add that to the fact that he's young and English and we could have commanded an inflated fee for him.

Most obvious case of that is Everton getting £24 million for Joleon Lescott.

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

Hipster_Nebula wrote:
When Sturridge left.

"he's too selfish"
No the best one was he was only good because he had Davies next to him.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Remember all that chat about Cahill's £17.5 million release clause?
Face it, he was and is class and we were mugged.
Sturridge was too greedy - which is OK if he's scoring. But he has matured into a better player now, mainly because he's got playing time and the responsibility that goes with it.
Wilshere was a real lightweight when he came to us, but he soon learned to get stuck in - which is probably why he has so many injury problems.

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A lot of Chelsea fans don't rate Cahill, some of the comments on Chelsea forums are similar to what is written on here about Zat Knight.

Keegan

Keegan
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Chelsea fans are spoilt.

https://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

observer


Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Keegan wrote:Chelsea fans are spoilt.
Take him back... no questions asked.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

observer wrote:
Keegan wrote:Chelsea fans are spoilt.
Take him back... no questions asked.
...as if there was any chance Smile

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