The Madeline McCann Scenario!

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Natasha Whittam wrote:

karlypants wrote:It is great that the McCann's have determination to find her where as most would have given up a long time ago, it just makes me think that they are living off this now or have something to hide as they just won't let it drop in my opinion.

As Soul Kitchen says, it must be costing a fortune all this.

You don't have children do you KP. If you lost a child you would NEVER give up looking.

If they had something to hide they wouldn't be creating as much media attention as they can.

These poor people lost their daughter because they were stupid. Not nasty, just stupid. Imagine how they feel, how impossible their lives must be.

Nat you don't have children either do you? So what the hell do you know about parenting?
It's a toss up with you, parenting? Shagging? Bullshit ? Now which is your best subject? 

My whole point is what about other missing kids? I still think something smells about this whole affair. What about the other two kids, were they not disturbed? Did Maddy not scream? Does this suggest all three kids knew the person who removed Maddy? Or did she just wander out and fate befell her?
Are the McCanns still searching to appease their guilt? Too many questions that will never be answered.

Fair play to them for keeping the story in the media spotlight for so long, sadly I think it's all in vein but I don't believe any parent would give up hope if their child had gone missing.

Fingers crossed they finally get closure one way or another on all of this.

Don't get it.

Child asks where they were when her 3 years old and her brother aged 2, were cryinng the night before, yet they both bigger out again the next night too. And the mum checks on the kids at 10pm and doesn't even look at the kids to see they are ok?

Unfathomable.

We all make mistakes but wtf?

The children deserve better parents but even then she didn't deserve to be taken.

God I hope she's safe and well and soon home with loved ones.

Sluffy, I presume you watched the crimewatch special on Madelaine?

Did anyone else watch it?

Can anyone explain to me why trained dogs alerted to the smell of human remains in their rental car, on Maddies toy and in their wardrobe. 

I'm not being sarcastic but i didn't hear that mentioned once tonight.

I saw it, all the other couples did exactly the same had a meal together, checking on the kids every half hour, no one takes a pop at them?, as i said they were very silly but paying such a dreadful price.

As for the time lapse, if you took that view for giving up, then the three lasses in America could have just rotted in a cellar everyone thought they were dead, if no proof of death how could any parent give up. If they did give up then they would deserve some stick.

Would be one hell of a story if they found her, never say never? and it's not just Madeline similar coverage happened with the young lad Ben Needham in Cyprus.

Yes I watched it.  Crimewatch, will be on BBC iPlayer later no doubt if you want to see it for yourself.

Doesn't really change much but the parents interview was shocking I thought, how can you leave 3 children aged under three alone especially when they are asking where you are when they are crying. Broke my heart that bit.

The mother goes on to say she checked on the kids by shutting their bedroom door without actuality looking in on them?  It was only when the door slameed she realised the window was open ed and shouldn't have been only then did she realise Maddy was missing.

Can't understand wtf they think they were doing.

Poor kid, God help her.

I think the whole issue regarding this case is the fact that both Maddy's parents were doctors. I know we had a rotten apple with Harry Shipman but in the main, doctors tend to stick to their Hippocratic oath.

You need to look at the layout of the complex that they stayed at. It wasn't just the McCanns. There was a group of them all on holiday at the same time. IIRC they were in a party of fourteen adults all on holiday at the same time. They were in company of work colleagues and they were in their comfort zone. They let their guard drop because they were in the company of other families that they worked with and were comfortable with.

ITV did a documentary a few years ago on the disappearance of Madelaine McCann and the conclusion was that Maddy had been kidnapped and that the Portuguese investigators had made a hash of things.

It's my take on events as well. I am 100% satisfied that the McCanns had no involvement whatsoever in their daughters disappearance. They made a terrible mistake, the consequences of which will haunt them forever. If there is such a thing as everlasting life then I would be happy to come back for the second time and have the McCanns as my parents.

Shame the financially hard up doctors the McCanns and their bessey mates did not shell out and use the creche rather than go out on the piss leaving their three year old cry her eyes out wanting her mum and dad.

Wouldn't be in this shit if they had nor would a child be lost.

It's not about having brains being a good parent, its about having common sense and leaving 3 kids aged three and under alone, night after night after night, even after they tell you they are  crying for you isn't common sense nor is it particularly clever either.

Sluffy wrote:Shame the financially hard up doctors the McCanns and their bessey mates did not shell out and use the creche rather than go out on the piss leaving their three year old cry her eyes out wanting her mum and dad.

Wouldn't be in this shit if they had nor would a child be lost.

It's not about having brains being a good parent, its about having common sense and leaving 3 kids aged three and under alone, night after night after night, even after they tell you they are  crying for you isn't common sense nor is it particularly clever either.

I take your point Sluffy but it's not as if they left the site to go and have a good time. From where they were all sat they could see the rooms where all the children were sleeping. Iirc the seating area at the bar was approx 150 yards from the bar area where they were sat?

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Can anyone explain to me why trained dogs alerted to the smell of human remains in their rental car, on Maddies toy and in their wardrobe. 

I'm not being sarcastic but i didn't hear that mentioned once tonight.

It was another bloody red herring. The car they used was a hire car so who knows what previous users had stored in the boot. Road kill? They drove the car from the airport to the complex so it stands to reason that Maddie and her possessions would have left some trace in the car.

Did the McCann's leave the window open, or did the baby snatcher break in ?

Also if they where doing this every night someone might of been watching their routine to know there where children asleep.

also, it seems that they only wanted the girl, so its likely it was a planned abduction .

I hope they find the bastards , and it would be fantastic if they could find Madeline alive.

It just shows you what scum are out there.

karlypants wrote:

It is great that the McCann's have determination to find her where as most would have given up a long time ago, it just makes me think that they are living off this now or have something to hide as they just won't let it drop in my opinion.

As Soul Kitchen says, it must be costing a fortune all this.

So because they haven't given up on finding their child, you think they're guilty or milking it? What a load of crap, there's new evidence and if that helps in any way it should be publicised as much as possible.

If you're bored by it don't watch it, but there are plenty of people who are sympathetic to what must be horrendous for the parents. And stop moaning about what its cost you, (probably less than a penny in taxes) finding an abducted 3 year old is a perfectly good use of police resources.

It makes me angry when folk say costing us, costing us ? As if we were ever going to see something for that money anyway ?

Get a grip will you, there might be a small chance of finding this young girl and you moan about how much its costing, get a grip before I feed you to the sharks.

How many times do I have to say this?  What about all the other missing kids? The McCanns are fortunate enough to keep it in the media spotlight, what about Johnny Smith from Johnson Fold?
Now let's see wot was I doing on 03/05/07?  I wasn't in Portugal having a beer, does that mean I'm not a suspect?  
The Police are bouncing about like a pinball searching for a black cat in a dark room!  Good luck!!

It's interesting that two callers have contacted the police and given the police the same name of a person who could be of interest. All of these leads should have been carried out years ago by the Portuguese authorities. Why has it taken so many years for a Photofit to be published?

If you take the premise that the McCanns are genuinely innocent of any foul play and then put yourself in their shoes, it's easy to see why they are using every means at their disposal to try and find out what happened to their daughter. Any loving parent would do exactly the same.

Soul Kitchen wrote:How many times do I have to say this?  What about all the other missing kids? The McCanns are fortunate enough to keep it in the media spotlight, what about Johnny Smith from Johnson Fold?
Now let's see wot was I doing on 03/05/07?  I wasn't in Portugal having a beer, does that mean I'm not a suspect?  
The Police are bouncing about like a pinball searching for a black cat in a dark room!  Good luck!!

You idiot.

How many British kids have been abducted abroad in the last few years and are still missing?

I bet if it was your kid missing you'd be doing everything possible to keep the story in the public eye. I doubt very much whether you'd be saying '....don't waste money looking for my kid, look for kids missing in the UK'.

Idiot.

I can see the point that SK is making to be fair. Children do go missing on a daily basis never to be seen again. It's certainly odd how certain cases capture the attention of the public and the media whereas others don't.

The murder of Rachell Nickell on Clapham Common generated massive publicity whereas the brutal murder of Samantha Bisset and her 4 year old daughter, carried out by the same killer, hardly raised an eyebrow. How can that be?

Some cases for whatever reason just seem to court publicity. The brutal murder of 6 year old JonBenet Ramsay in America, mirrors much of what has occurred with the Madeleine McCann abduction. Once again, the senior investigator formed the opinion that the father was abusing JonBenet and had probably killed her to silence her. She was originally reported missing and although the police searched the family home they were unable to locate her body. The family later discovered her body in the wine cellar after the police had left. It's worth reading up on this case because it shows how vital resources which should be used to catch the killer end up focusing on the innocent parents simply because the senior investigator has a ' hunch.' Subsequent leaks to the press which had to have come from the police painted the Ramsay's as an odd couple and persons of interest, when in actual fact they were severely traumatised that their daughter had been brutally murdered in the family home. It took many years before the police accepted that they got it wrong and a new enquiry lead by a fresh pair of eyes finally got a breakthrough when DNA from an unknown male was recovered from her underwear and clothing. The Ramsays had to put up with years of whispers and abuse just because the senior investigator adopted a tunnel vision mindset.

This certainly wouldn't happen in the UK, nor France for that matter, where an examining magistrate is appointed to oversee all major police investigations.