Is it stupid how we judge managers?

y2j 3.0 wrote:

terenceanne wrote:Its apples and oranges to me..... how do you think Murhino or Pepe would have done at BWFC last season.  On the other hand would Neil Lennon do well at Barca or Man City with 100's of millions to piss away.
So you can't judge a manager just on results...a lot of it depends on his resources.  West Brom, Bournmouth and the like etc. will always struggle or be mid table. Not because their managers are worse than the big boys......but because they can't compete financially and get the players they want to build the teams as they see it.  That's the way of the world at the moment.

Leicester and Ranieri last season.

Didnt spend a lot
  Just spent well and obviously managed the team well

terenceanne wrote:

y2j 3.0 wrote:

terenceanne wrote:Its apples and oranges to me..... how do you think Murhino or Pepe would have done at BWFC last season.  On the other hand would Neil Lennon do well at Barca or Man City with 100's of millions to piss away.
So you can't judge a manager just on results...a lot of it depends on his resources.  West Brom, Bournmouth and the like etc. will always struggle or be mid table. Not because their managers are worse than the big boys......but because they can't compete financially and get the players they want to build the teams as they see it.  That's the way of the world at the moment.

Leicester and Ranieri last season.

Didnt spend a lot
  Just spent well and obviously managed the team well

We are talking in general not specific teams & managers.

As for Leicester weren't they bought buy that Asian bloke who has pumped a good few million into the team.  Nothing in the realm of the big boys but enough for that fluke season. But now you mention it...it shows what can be done with relatively small investment.
So if Leicester finishes mid-table this season and get relegated next season is Ranieri a bad manager all of a sudden? or is he still a good one?

y2j 3.0 wrote:

terenceanne wrote:

y2j 3.0 wrote:

terenceanne wrote:Its apples and oranges to me..... how do you think Murhino or Pepe would have done at BWFC last season.  On the other hand would Neil Lennon do well at Barca or Man City with 100's of millions to piss away.
So you can't judge a manager just on results...a lot of it depends on his resources.  West Brom, Bournmouth and the like etc. will always struggle or be mid table. Not because their managers are worse than the big boys......but because they can't compete financially and get the players they want to build the teams as they see it.  That's the way of the world at the moment.

Leicester and Ranieri last season.

Didnt spend a lot
  Just spent well and obviously managed the team well

We are talking in general not specific teams & managers.

As for Leicester weren't they bought buy that Asian bloke who has pumped a good few million into the team.  Nothing in the realm of the big boys but enough for that fluke season. But now you mention it...it shows what can be done with relatively small investment.
So if Leicester finishes mid-table this season and get relegated next season is Ranieri a bad manager all of a sudden? or is he still a good one?

Leicester spent about the second or third least in the premier league last season.  So not bad going really.  And i think Ranieri is proven as a decent manager with or without masses.

Big Sam is also a good manager and gets the best out of players.

Managers like mourinho, guardiola, klopp, they will never have to worry, because if a cog doesnt fit, they can just go out and buy a new one.

bwfc1874 wrote:Klopp improved Dortmund with no money comparatively speaking. He's done the same at Liverpool.

Mourinho did the same at Inter and Porto.