Brexit negotiations

Incidentally, I believe we have a bigger economy than Russia, and it is from this direction that we are likely to derive longer term benefits.

gloswhite wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote: Stronger as part of the EU on defence and diplomacy than we are today, cut off and powerless.

What ???  Absolute rubbish !!! Part of the EU ? In case you hadn't noticed, were in NATO, and, many of our allies that you claim have abandoned us, have, in fact, come out in support.

Yes Trump is really going that extra mile for us isn't he.

What, like the EU, you mean ?

gloswhite wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote: Stronger as part of the EU on defence and diplomacy than we are today, cut off and powerless.

What ???  Absolute rubbish !!! Part of the EU ? In case you hadn't noticed, were in NATO, and, many of our allies that you claim have abandoned us, have, in fact, come out in support.

Not fair to dismiss other views as rubbish. 

Do you think us expelling diplomats will have any affect? Do you think Russia would feel it more if our allies took similar steps? Are those steps more likely to be taken in a united EU?

gloswhite wrote:What, like the EU, you mean ?

So who are these allies that have "come out in support"?

Sadly as announced today Unilever, which was created by the Leverhulme Family of Bolton , have decided to close their London HQ and just keep their Rotterdam HQ, due to Brexit.   Jobs will be lost in London.

This is not the first, as two EU quango's have already decided to move from UK to The Netherlands and Germany, thus losing 1000 jobs, between them, in UK.

Also known are that the motoring manufacturing companies are also considering moving from the UK to the EU if UK does not keep the common market and the freedom of movement - and as those 2 are 2 of the 4 key principles of the EU, then the motoring industry will looks as though will be moving thus losing UK jobs.

Who will be next.

All this was predicted before the referendum, by the experts, but many decided the experts were not to be believed, how wrong those people were!

xmiles wrote:

gloswhite wrote:What, like the EU, you mean ?

So who are these allies that have "come out in support"?

No answer necessary for this one is there ? Just look at the news on the TV

T.R.O.Y wrote:

gloswhite wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote: Stronger as part of the EU on defence and diplomacy than we are today, cut off and powerless.

What ???  Absolute rubbish !!! Part of the EU ? In case you hadn't noticed, were in NATO, and, many of our allies that you claim have abandoned us, have, in fact, come out in support.

Not fair to dismiss other views as rubbish. 

Do you think us expelling diplomats will have any affect? Do you think Russia would feel it more if our allies took similar steps? Are those steps more likely to be taken in a united EU?

TROY, apologies if my response was a bit overwhelming, it wasn't intentional. However, if we don't expel unregistered intelligence officers, and build on this by gaining legitimate support from our allies, what can we do, just accept it ? I don't think so.

gloswhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:

gloswhite wrote:What, like the EU, you mean ?

So who are these allies that have "come out in support"?

No answer necessary for this one is there ? Just look at the news on the TV

I think you will find that France and Germany are in the EU.

xmiles wrote:

gloswhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:

gloswhite wrote:What, like the EU, you mean ?

So who are these allies that have "come out in support"?

No answer necessary for this one is there ? Just look at the news on the TV

I think you will find that France and Germany are in the EU.

Very astute XM, but they are not offering support as part of the EU, are they ?
In fact it was shown on the TV, that one of the other countries said, (about a week after the event), that it wasn't right that the EU hadn't discussed it at that time.

There’s also been plenty on television suggesting Putin sees the Uk as weaker after Brexit. And thus an easier target. 

All speculation of course as we cannot even confirm if the Kremlin was behind the attack. Worthy of consideration though nonetheless.

T.R.O.Y wrote:All speculation of course as we cannot even confirm if the Kremlin was behind the attack. Worthy of consideration though nonetheless.

Sure but Russia had the means, the motive and the track record.
As Mayday concluded, if they didn't do it, who did the Russians supply with their nerve agent?

I’m sure it was the Russians, but we cannot say categorically either way.

Provisional Brexit transition arrangements agreed with the EU - but no details given and still a bit of work to do on borders/Gibraltar etc.

wanderlust wrote:Provisional Brexit transition arrangements agreed with the EU - but no details given and still a bit of work to do on borders/Gibraltar etc.

Lets be honest, its about bloody time something happened. The EU have had such a tight hold on the negotiations, that its only time that has forced them to actually concede something. Having said that, the wagon is still rolling, albeit very slowly.

Hilarious! The new (old style blue) British passports which will be issued after Brexit will be manufactured in France. 

Couldn't make it up 

I assume everyone's aware of the Brexit deal regarding UK fishing waters? 

After his attention-seeking stunt throwing dead fish in the Thames, Nigel Farage gets absolutely rinsed in the EU Parliament for being a member of the Fisheries Committee - and failing to attend any of the meetings - whilst receiving a salary for it.

wanderlust wrote:I assume everyone's aware of the Brexit deal regarding UK fishing waters? 

After his attention-seeking stunt throwing dead fish in the Thames, Nigel Farage gets absolutely rinsed in the EU Parliament for being a member of the Fisheries Committee - and failing to attend any of the meetings - whilst receiving a salary for it.

Hoisted by his own petard!

wanderlust wrote:Hilarious! The new (old style blue) British passports which will be issued after Brexit will be manufactured in France. 

Couldn't make it up 

Have a look at the headline on today's Daily Mail for another laugh. Even by their barking mad standards it is a classic! They are outraged that we are not spending £100-200m extra by giving the contract to a British firm.