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22 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 20:47
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
I think it's to early to be calling for coyles head. We're 4 games into the season for crying out loud! It's rare that a team will run away with this league, we are still adapting and finding our feet. Give the guy a break!
23 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 20:49
BoltonTillIDie
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Gonnawin4coyle wrote:I think it's to early to be calling for coyles head. We're 4 games into the season for crying out loud! It's rare that a team will run away with this league, we are still adapting and finding our feet. Give the guy a break!
Gonnawin4coyle is a rubbish name (Sorry), you should change it to Gonnawin4Bolton - I am guessing you are a big Coyle fan rather than a Big Bolton fan?
BTW - Welcome to bolton nuts - I hope you enjoy your stay
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24 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 20:52
largehat
Frank Worthington
BoltonTillIDie wrote:I am guessing you are a big Coyle fan rather than a Big Bolton fan?
BTID, are you for real? Can't someone be both?
Welcome to the forum, Gonnawin4coyle. Use any name you like pal.
25 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 20:53
Guest
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Gonnawin4coyle wrote:I think it's to early to be calling for coyles head. We're 4 games into the season for crying out loud! It's rare that a team will run away with this league, we are still adapting and finding our feet. Give the guy a break!
I don't buy into this 'adapting to the league' theory. We were playing at a far higher level last season, they should be more than ready for the championship.
If Coyle had made changes to the team it would be too early to call for his head. But he's learnt nothing from last season and continues with the same shit (442, long ball, shit defending, shit substitutions, shit fitness Im sure others can add to this list) If he'd of changed our formation, introduced new tactics and was blooding youngsters I'd give him time, but he isnt.
Time to go.
26 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 20:56
BoltonTillIDie
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largehat wrote:BoltonTillIDie wrote:I am guessing you are a big Coyle fan rather than a Big Bolton fan?
BTID, are you for real? Can't someone be both?
Welcome to the forum, Gonnawin4coyle. Use any name you like pal.
Of course they can! But win for coyle?
27 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:03
largehat
Frank Worthington
BoltonTillIDie wrote:
Of course they can! But win for coyle?
It's just a username, BTID. You live in Halifax, you don't take "BoltonTillIDie" literally to the ultimate degree. I don't own a large hat. Natasha has an Adam's Apple. Hipster isn't hip.
28 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:08
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
I think BTID is jealous of my username.
29 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:10
largehat
Frank Worthington
Gonnawin4coyle wrote:I think BTID is jealous of my username.
30 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:10
bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Gonnawin4coyle wrote:I think it's to early to be calling for coyles head. We're 4 games into the season for crying out loud! It's rare that a team will run away with this league, we are still adapting and finding our feet. Give the guy a break!
So why did we have friendlies, again?
31 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:13
largehat
Frank Worthington
bwfc71 wrote:
So why did we have friendlies, again?
Be fair, Chris, you can't replicate actual league football in friendlies. All relegated teams go through a period of adaptation to a new league, whether it's one game, 3 games, or 10 games. Wolves only have 4 points too. It's one reason it's much easier to stay up than go back up. I'm not making excuses for Coyle or anyone, it's always been like that.
32 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:22
bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Managerial Positions
Falkirk 31/1/2003 – 20/5/2003 19 games – won 12, drew 3, lost 4 (win 63%)
St Johnstone 15/4/05 – 22/11/07 70 games – won 36, drew 20, lost 14 (win 51%)
Burnley 22/11/07 – 5/1/2010 116 games – won 49, drew 29, lost 38 (win 42%)
Bolton 8/1/10 – today 119 games – won 40, drew 23, lost 56 (win 34%)
Notes: Games as in all competitions
Lets take it to same number of games as Burnley which equates to 1 draw, 1 win and 1 loss to take off, guess what the win percentage rate is…… 34% much worse than when he was manager at Burnley – the stats show it all. He has to go.
Falkirk 31/1/2003 – 20/5/2003 19 games – won 12, drew 3, lost 4 (win 63%)
St Johnstone 15/4/05 – 22/11/07 70 games – won 36, drew 20, lost 14 (win 51%)
Burnley 22/11/07 – 5/1/2010 116 games – won 49, drew 29, lost 38 (win 42%)
Bolton 8/1/10 – today 119 games – won 40, drew 23, lost 56 (win 34%)
Notes: Games as in all competitions
Lets take it to same number of games as Burnley which equates to 1 draw, 1 win and 1 loss to take off, guess what the win percentage rate is…… 34% much worse than when he was manager at Burnley – the stats show it all. He has to go.
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33 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:24
bwfc71
Ivan Campo
largehat wrote:bwfc71 wrote:
So why did we have friendlies, again?
Be fair, Chris, you can't replicate actual league football in friendlies. All relegated teams go through a period of adaptation to a new league, whether it's one game, 3 games, or 10 games. Wolves only have 4 points too. It's one reason it's much easier to stay up than go back up. I'm not making excuses for Coyle or anyone, it's always been like that.
There is a bit of that but the friendlies are there to get match fit, to get used to new surroundings (i.e. league) to looking at new partnerships and new formations and to experiment around - but none of that happened and we are still as useless as we were over the last 18 months.
34 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:29
Hipster_Nebula
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But we didn't play anyone from the league?
The pre season games are primarily for fitness and to try out players/formations.
I don't think any body (correct me) is expecting us to win 5-0 every game but it's more the inability to pass and move, and defend properly.
The pre season games are primarily for fitness and to try out players/formations.
I don't think any body (correct me) is expecting us to win 5-0 every game but it's more the inability to pass and move, and defend properly.
35 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:29
largehat
Frank Worthington
bwfc71 wrote:
There is a bit of that but the friendlies are there to get match fit, to get used to new surroundings (i.e. league) to looking at new partnerships and new formations and to experiment around - but none of that happened and we are still as useless as we were over the last 18 months.
I was talking in more general terms, I think my point is true for all relegated teams. It's one of the challenge of relegation. Between us, Wolves and Blackburn we have 15 points out of a possible 27 so far.
I'm not saying it isn't Coyle's job to manage that transition or that he's done it well, I just don't think friendlies could prepare us for the level of intensity Burnley and Forest showed.
36 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:33
bwfc71
Ivan Campo
Thing is as some would say, although I wouldn't say it the same way, Coyle has had history in the league and should know the intensity and should have prepared for it like he did with Burnley - but although that is true to a point I do agree with you, a little, as the division has changed and become more intense since he was last in the division but that then also shows he hasn't done his homework thoroughly enough in knowing how the division has changed and how to prepare for it!
37 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 21:36
Keegan
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largehat wrote:...I just don't think friendlies could prepare us for the level of intensity Burnley and Forest showed.
And Crawley Town.
38 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 22:15
BoltonTillIDie
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largehat wrote:BoltonTillIDie wrote:
Of course they can! But win for coyle?
It's just a username, BTID. You live in Halifax, you don't take "BoltonTillIDie" literally to the ultimate degree. I don't own a large hat. Natasha has an Adam's Apple. Hipster isn't hip.
I will be a Bolton fan till I die - so my username is correct
You don't own a large hat...You have misled me. I'm seething
Hipster, in my opinion is hip
Natasha has an Adam's Apple - I don't understand the logic behind this one...
Anyway...I'm just jealous
39 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 23:10
Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
SniggerKeegan wrote:largehat wrote:...I just don't think friendlies could prepare us for the level of intensity Burnley and Forest showed.
And Crawley Town.
40 Re: Should Coyle stay? Wed Aug 29 2012, 23:15
largehat
Frank Worthington
Angry Dad wrote:SniggerKeegan wrote:largehat wrote:...I just don't think friendlies could prepare us for the level of intensity Burnley and Forest showed.
And Crawley Town.
Go and read your Mills & Boon novel AD.
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