Gary Speed...

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:a bit of tact wouldn't go a miss nat.

If you want to discuss the nature of suicide start a thread.

I just find another RIP thread for this guy a bit much. It was his choice to die, why are we feeling sorry for someone who chose to do this?

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

no I wouldn't...

I feel sorry for him. Like I say, to do that must mean you feel you have no option left. are you really suggesting that ANY parent would take the option of leaving their kids without a parent lightly? Not to mention the mental scarring it would cause and leave their spouse as a single parent...

I dont belive for one second he took the easy way out, he had a reason for doing what he did and it seemed a better option.

Maybe he felt that him being dead would be better for his family due to something that had happened, maybe he was suffering from a severe mental illness and thus can be absolved of any blame anyway.

all I know is, anyone who commits suicide, especially in such a way as GS did, do so because they feel either panicked to the point of suicide (very much like the guy who shot himself in the film titanic - bad comparison I know) or they are severely mentally disturbed...

either way, its nothing but sad.

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

I'm not posting on this thread anymore. I've said my bit. your just going to keep trolling now, so il let you get on with it...

Natasha Whittam wrote:

aaron_bwfc wrote:

Sorry but you are bang out of order with the scumbags comment, I had a family member who did the same thing and don't appreciate people saying disgusting comments like that.

I appreciate you might not agree with suicide but to call them scumbags is just wrong.

Sorry you feel that way, but I'm just being honest. Without turning into Amos I have experience of this and, believe me, there is no worse experience.

Perhaps scumbags was the wrong word though, let's go with "selfish".

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

I'm not posting on this thread anymore. I've said my bit. your just going to keep trolling now, so il let you get on with it...

Brilliant answer. Someone has an alternative view so rather than debate it you run off like a big girl.

I suspect it's because deep down you feel the same way.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

I'm sure he felt he had a valid reason for doing what he did. Although I suspect when the truth comes out it won't seem worth killing yourself over. Few things are.

Reebok_Rebel wrote:

Fine...

Like you do? You have ran away from several threads recently were you run out of trolling ideas and simply leave the thread to run its course...

your nothing but a WUM, a pretty good one, but a total WUM and a troll. I dont think anything you post is actually 'your' opinion. You simply post what will provoke a reaction, when you get one I assume you must get some form of sadistic pleasure out of it.

why do you refer to it as 'your work' as well... strange.

Lt. Boon wrote:all I will say is it is NOT the easy way out.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Lt. Boon wrote:all I will say is it is NOT the easy way out.

A guy hangs himself at the family home leaving his wife and kids to sort his mess out. No one should deny that is taking the easy way out.

Lt. Boon wrote:

What a load of bull shit.

Natasha Whittam wrote:I'm not taking the piss, I am genuinely interested in why you think that isn't taking the easy way out.

Lt. Boon wrote:I'm not going to be drawn into a long debate about suicide, all I will say is it is NOT the easy way out. If it was, hundreds of thousands of people would kill themselves every day. To take your own life is the hard way out. It must take more guts, balls, courage than anything else to actually go through with it. Leaving a mess behind for others to find is horrible, yes, but it's not an easy way out and as others have said, Gary must have had no doubts that it was the ONLY option available to him. Such a sad situation! That's all I will say on that.

Lt. Boon wrote:To be fair, you know all about what it means to have balls "Natasha"!

summercummings wrote:There's certainly no honour or balls in killing yourself and leaving your body for your kids to find.