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Yet another Religious atrocity

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361Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 14:23

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Respect to Hitchens Minor there.

I would have struggled not to get up and stick my foot right down that cackling bint's throat.

362Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 14:56

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Euthanasia is a good thing...

363Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 15:18

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Hipster_Nebula wrote:It's just a word created by Muslims to imply some prejudice when discussing Islam because they can't use the word racist.  That doesn't mean I don't think there are plenty of bigoted people who have genuine hatred for muslims but we already have a word for that bigotry. 

It's constantly used in perfectly civil and academic debates that actually seek to discuss Islam, the people on the streets with placards and skinheads are just bigoted idiots. 


Fair enough, Hitchen's makes a good argument in that clip - still can't stand him though. 

I suppose it's akin to the instant response of pro-Israelis who cry anti-semitism whenever somebody disagrees with Zionism, shutting down a perfectly reasonable debate.

364Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 15:19

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He's not my favourite person either.

Even their Chris didn't like him.

365Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 15:35

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

No I don't like Peter Hitchens tbh but he makes some good points on Islam. 

Nothing like Christopher who was superb.

366Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 16:06

xmiles

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Jay Jay Okocha
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bwfc1874 wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:It's just a word created by Muslims to imply some prejudice when discussing Islam because they can't use the word racist.  That doesn't mean I don't think there are plenty of bigoted people who have genuine hatred for muslims but we already have a word for that bigotry. 

It's constantly used in perfectly civil and academic debates that actually seek to discuss Islam, the people on the streets with placards and skinheads are just bigoted idiots. 


Fair enough, Hitchen's makes a good argument in that clip - still can't stand him though. 

I suppose it's akin to the instant response of pro-Israelis who cry anti-semitism whenever somebody disagrees with Zionism, shutting down a perfectly reasonable debate.

Completely agree.

367Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 16:11

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

It just never stops:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31656222

Maybe there is something fundamentally wrong with this belief system.

368Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Fri Feb 27 2015, 17:00

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
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Killed for writing something down.

good grief, think of what we could achieve as a species if we actually had a collective vision and ambition. 

people who want to live in the dark ages should be sent into space.

369Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 02 2015, 18:19

Reebok Trotter

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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/all-about/rochdale


Ten charged but fortunately only nine were Asian.

370Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 02 2015, 19:03

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Interesting to note that whilst no one knew if Jihadi John was being radicalised whilst he was at school, or not - his head teacher, Jo Shuter, was plundering the schools finances for her personal gain - to such an excessive extent - that she was banned for life from teaching - with NO right of appeal - that being in the public interest!

Maybe the schools eye was off the ball at a very important time in 'John's' formative years?

Full story here - well worth a read imo.

(for what it is worth, this seems to be an 'exclusive' from me as I can't seem to see anywhere else on the internet that have linked the two people together).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27390139

371Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Wed Mar 04 2015, 19:05

xmiles

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Jay Jay Okocha
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372Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 10:05

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

It is always somebody else's fault (and nothing to do with the way these girls were brought up of course).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31792130

373Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 11:46

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
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Massive chips on their shoulders as they look down on the non believers!
If these girls choose to go and serve a bunch of misogynists then why should the "Nanny State" stop them?!
Ffs look a bit closer to home!!!!

374Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 11:46

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Unbelievable.

375Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 11:59

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xmiles wrote:It is always somebody else's fault (and nothing to do with the way these girls were brought up of course).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31792130

It's laughable when people want to blame the security forces for incidents like these. How are they supposed to anticipate three 15 year old girls running away from home? Maybe they have more threatening people to worry about?

Felt the same way when there was an outcry about failing to prevent Lee Rugby's murder. You simply can't predict when these nutters are going to do something like that.

376Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 12:32

xmiles

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Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

The hypocrisy spouted by the media is incredible. The security services are to blame if they don't stop something and yet how are they supposed to do it? Only the kind of regime that exists in North Korea could possibly stop them.

377Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 12:41

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

It's clear non of you racists can read - they want an apology for something the police said which made the families out to be liars, but don't let the facts get in the way of your agenda.

378Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 12:48

xmiles

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Jay Jay Okocha
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Natasha Whittam wrote:It's clear non of you racists can read - they want an apology for something the police said which made the families out to be liars, but don't let the facts get in the way of your agenda.

Technically true Nat as the article says: the force wrongly said the families had known a close friend of the girls was already in Syria before they disappeared from London. However it shows the families blaming the police for their own problems. Did none of their daughters mention their best friend had gone to Syria? Did they not suspect their daughters were nutters? What about their upbringing might have contributed to their daughters behaviour? What difference would it have made if the police or school had managed to communicate with these parents?

379Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 12:51

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

It's hardly fair to blame the police for the actions of their daughters but where there is a blame there is a claim. How do we know the parents are not telling the truth and that they did know that one of their daughters friends had already gone to Syria?

380Yet another Religious atrocity - Page 19 Empty Re: Yet another Religious atrocity Mon Mar 09 2015, 12:52

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

xmiles wrote:

Technically true Nat as the article says: the force wrongly said the families had known a close friend of the girls was already in Syria before they disappeared from London. However it shows the families blaming the police for their own problems. Did none of their daughters mention their best friend had gone to Syria? Did they not suspect their daughters were nutters? What about their upbringing might have contributed to their daughters behaviour? What difference would it have made if the police or school had managed to communicate with these parents?

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