Would you tackle a Muslim bush

bwfc1874 wrote:Oh come on RT, is set up a machine gun, shoot them all dead and fly them out of the country really what plenty of others are thinking? 

And what does the comparison to an Islamic forum mean? Why would we hold ourselves to the same standard as that? 

The guy is completely over the line far too often (I suspect when he has a drink he can't keep his racist thoughts down).

You could well be right but if I was serving my country in some hellhole like Afghanistan or Iraq then I would want somebody like him in the trenches with me. I do agree that his comments were OTT but at least he is not afraid to speak his mind.

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:Oh come on RT, is set up a machine gun, shoot them all dead and fly them out of the country really what plenty of others are thinking? 

And what does the comparison to an Islamic forum mean? Why would we hold ourselves to the same standard as that? 

The guy is completely over the line far too often (I suspect when he has a drink he can't keep his racist thoughts down).

You could well be right but if I was serving my country in some hellhole like Afghanistan or Iraq then I would want somebody like him in the trenches with me. I do agree that his comments were OTT but at least he is not afraid to speak his mind.  

If he was in a trench with me I'd get out and fill it in.

White84 banned for nothing..

Copper Dragon wrote:Have you met White84 on your football travels Reebok Trotter?

No I haven't but I know of him and from what I have heard he is a ' what you see is what you get, take me or leave me ' kind of guy. A few of my mates have met him and have described him as a ' rum fcuker '.

To be fair to the mods you have to draw the line somewhere. In this day and age you cannot go on a public forum and advocate machine gunning all and sundry just because you don't like the cut of their jib. It wouldn't happen in the UK whether or not. Health and Safety and the IPCC would nip it in the bud before the notion ever got off the ground.

I'm not over keen on posters trying to get other posters banned though. Just because they might be controversial. It's a free world and most of us are sensible adults who have enough common sense to separate reality from sensationalism. Why don't posters use the ' ignore ' button more often?

Reebok Trotter wrote:No I haven't but I know of him and from what I have heard he is a ' what you see is what you get, take me or leave me ' kind of guy. A few of my mates have met him and have described him as a ' rum fcuker '.

It's funny Reebok Trotter because I once was shown an Asian porn mag (it was found with many other rhythmn magazines in an old factory we were demolishing) and all the women in it had big hairy growlers.

So the thread title makes me chuckle and he's not lying either. 

bwfc1874 wrote: 

As I said in my previous post, if views like this are really 'just saying what people are thinking' then it's really ridiculous. His views show an unreal level of ignorance.

I don't know where you work or do your drinking or smoke your weed but if you were to broaden your horizons and visit some of the working mens clubs in the north of England you might be surprised to discover that a lot of people share some of Whites84's views.
I am not advocating that his viewpoint is the right one but he certainly isn't alone. Get yourself down to Gloddick in Oldham if you fancy a reality check. I've spent time in Limeside and Gloddick and I can guarantee it isn't a hotbed of racial harmony.

Copper Dragon wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:No I haven't but I know of him and from what I have heard he is a ' what you see is what you get, take me or leave me ' kind of guy. A few of my mates have met him and have described him as a ' rum fcuker '.

It's funny Reebok Trotter because I once was shown an Asian porn mag (it was found with many other rhythmn magazines in an old factory we were demolishing) and all the women in it had big hairy growlers.

So the thread title makes me chuckle and he's not lying either. 

They are forbidden from trimming their muffs. How ridiculous in this day and age! I have always been partial to a fish supper as well!

bwfc1874 wrote:Not once have I said I'm offended by him personally. But I'll always disagree with views like that and tell him. The idiocy of views like his needs to be pointed out, especially when he seems to believe things that are completely false.

For once I agree with you. You are right when you say not once you have been offended by him, it's all the time!!

Reebok Trotter wrote:The sad thing is....I'm not sure that 84 actually is a racist. He could have worded things better but the brunt of his posts seemed to be directed at the Islamic radical rabble-rousers. I do accept that it is important that we avoid stereotyping people on the basis of their religion, colour or creed but some people get blinkered on this particular topic. It's not hard to see why if the events of the last few years are anything to go by. 
Make no mistake, Whites84 with his ' devil may care ' approach is simply saying what a lot of other people think. 
A ban may well be the right decision but I wonder if any of the Muslim brothers on any of the Islamic websites would have faced the same treatment had they dared to to have a go at the Khafur in the same way. I think not.
It's our British sense of fair play and appeasement that sets us apart from the religious headcases, nutjobs and balloons that threaten to destroy our way of life and traditional values. Our tolerance could be our salvation..but then again, it could be our downfall.
Mind how you go.

Spot on. Mind how you go sums it all up nicely.
I have an ignore button, how lucky I am?

bwfc1874 wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:Oh come on RT, is set up a machine gun, shoot them all dead and fly them out of the country really what plenty of others are thinking? 

And what does the comparison to an Islamic forum mean? Why would we hold ourselves to the same standard as that? 

The guy is completely over the line far too often (I suspect when he has a drink he can't keep his racist thoughts down).

There only seemed to be you and Breadman offended by it though.

I know it was racist bollocks, but it didn't offend me. I'd rather laugh at the stupidity of it.

Iv already told you I wasnt offended by it, but views like White84's are dangerous and based on complete and utter bollocks. 

As I said in my previous post, if views like this are really 'just saying what people are thinking' then it's really ridiculous. His views show an unreal level of ignorance.

Not arf!

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:Oh come on RT, is set up a machine gun, shoot them all dead and fly them out of the country really what plenty of others are thinking? 

And what does the comparison to an Islamic forum mean? Why would we hold ourselves to the same standard as that? 

The guy is completely over the line far too often (I suspect when he has a drink he can't keep his racist thoughts down).

You could well be right but if I was serving my country in some hellhole like Afghanistan or Iraq then I would want somebody like him in the trenches with me. I do agree that his comments were OTT but at least he is not afraid to speak his mind.  

You'd have him in a trench with you? So would I! 
I'll not name who I wouldn't!!

Reebok Trotter wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote: 

As I said in my previous post, if views like this are really 'just saying what people are thinking' then it's really ridiculous. His views show an unreal level of ignorance.

I don't know where you work or do your drinking or smoke your weed but if you were to broaden your horizons and visit some of the working mens clubs in the north of England you might be surprised to discover that a lot of people share some of Whites84's views.
I am not advocating that his viewpoint is the right one but he certainly isn't alone. Get yourself down to Gloddick in Oldham if you fancy a reality check. I've spent time in Limeside and Gloddick and I can guarantee it isn't a hotbed of racial harmony.  

Once again spot on.

I read an interesting article in the Mirror today about a Muslim woman from Brum who took her baby to join IS. She decided it wasn't all it was cracked up to be and got fucked off by the Turks at their border and sent back to Syria when she tried to get back home.
She's now crying to her family to get her back to Blighty!
The Home office here has said if she's allowed back she will have to be put on a de radicalisation course! 
Guess who'll pay for that? If I say what I think should happen will I get banned?

Soul Kitchen wrote:I read an interesting article in the Mirror today about a Muslim woman from Brum who took her baby to join IS. She decided it wasn't all it was cracked up to be and got fucked off by the Turks at their border and sent back to Syria when she tried to get back home.
She's now crying to her family to get her back to Blighty!
The Home office here has said if she's allowed back she will have to be put on a de radicalisation course! 
Guess who'll pay for that? If I say what I think should happen will I get banned?

I bloody well hope not!

We are in quite the catch 22 situation. 

If people with extreme views are locked up it is at a cost to the tax payer 

If they are deported it is strengthening the terrorists and whilst not as much so is still a cost to the tax payer 

Community integration isn't a serious option no matter how much money you throw at it

And even though we are expected to follow the religious laws of other countries whilst in them they don't do the same over here 

I think the people that do come into this country and do integrate are some of the nicest people i have met. They still have there beliefs but then i don't think that's a problem 

I wouldn't care if someone from tatouine came to live here as long as they integrated worked and paid there dues

And that goes for all the british lazy arses too. Do something ffs and put the great back in Britain

y2johnny wrote:We are in quite the catch 22 situation. 

If people with extreme views are locked up it is at a cost to the tax payer 

If they are deported it is strengthening the terrorists and whilst not as much so is still a cost to the tax payer 

Community integration isn't a serious option no matter how much money you throw at it

And even though we are expected to follow the religious laws of other countries whilst in them they don't do the same over here 

I think the people that do come into this country and do integrate are some of the nicest people i have met. They still have there beliefs but then i don't think that's a problem 

I wouldn't care if someone from tatouine came to live here as long as they integrated worked and paid there dues

And that goes for all the british lazy arses too. Do something ffs and put the great back in Britain

Great comment, agree with almost all of it. Although I think integration is our best bet and we should continue to try, I do share your pessimism towards it given that relations just seem to be getting worse by the day.

bwfc1874 wrote:

y2johnny wrote:We are in quite the catch 22 situation. 

If people with extreme views are locked up it is at a cost to the tax payer 

If they are deported it is strengthening the terrorists and whilst not as much so is still a cost to the tax payer 

Community integration isn't a serious option no matter how much money you throw at it

And even though we are expected to follow the religious laws of other countries whilst in them they don't do the same over here 

I think the people that do come into this country and do integrate are some of the nicest people i have met. They still have there beliefs but then i don't think that's a problem 

I wouldn't care if someone from tatouine came to live here as long as they integrated worked and paid there dues

And that goes for all the british lazy arses too. Do something ffs and put the great back in Britain

Great comment, agree with almost all of it. Although I think integration is our best bet and we should continue to try, I do share your pessimism towards it given that relations just seem to be getting worse by the day.

The problem is you've got people who either want to integrate and give back to the country that has given them a safe home or the ones who don't. Now the ones who don't are as bad as your edl's and white 84s.

and the extreme of both groups is what will continue to cause problems. 

And it's the folk who just want to get on that it will more than likely cause the problems for

Whichever way you cut it, things are going to come to a head. History teaches us that there have always been wars. It's simply the way of the world. The good people advocate peace and the nasty bastards advocate war. The importance of history is that past events allow us to alter the present and shape the future. The reality is, that mankind as we know it is roughly divided between four dominant religions and four different languages. Chinese, Hindu, Christians and Muslims. With the advances in modern science the world as we know it is getting smaller. Something simply has to give. The West craves oil and the East has oil.
In 1968, my History teacher, Mr Chandler ( who was brilliant by the way ) told us that the 3rd World War would be the war to end all wars and that it would be between the East and the West. How the fcuk none of the TV channels never got wind of Mr Chandler is beyond me. He would have made David Icke and Richard Madely look like a right pair of tosspots.
How did Mr Chandler back in 1968 know all about this shit? He never once mentioned the Illuminati, or the Freemasons, or the Knights of St Columbus or the St Catenians or any other kind of shit.

How did he know? It's over 45 years ago and everything he has said has literally come to pass.

Simple fact is there are 1.6billion Muslims in the world of which only 0.03% are extreme and do not want to integrate and another astonishing fact is that out of all terrorist attacks only 0.2% are in the name of Islam!

So it is fair to say that if Muslims wanted all infidels dead then they would have done it ages ago as there are enough of them to do it. 

All it does it shows people's fears for the minority of Muslims whilst the majority of them are just like us - wake up, go to work to earn money, buy food, (pray for their God - in my case my God is BWFC), chat, play happy families and go to sleep - everyone is born the same way, everyone has red blood and everyone dies - therefore how different are Muslims to us?  - they are not!!!