Here comes the Summer but I don't think it will be bright for BWFC

luckyPeterpiper wrote:lusty, my memory may be playing tricks on me but didn't we have a player called Twardzik before? I'm sure I've heard that name connected to BWFC some years ago. 

I agree with you on Eidur and Emile, age is less of a factor than class and if they still have the desire to play they could offer us quite a lot next term. I'd also (very rarely for me) be quite keen on seeing whether or not Kevin Nolan would be willing to drop a division to come back since the Hammers are reportedly going to release him in summer. 

What's the deal with Rochinha? I thought that was a non-starter. Did I miss something in the club news? 

I don't think I'm being overly pessimistic when I say I can't see Neil being allowed to spend a lot if anything. If the last three years are anything to go by we'll see a lot more outs than ins this summer and on the surface that's not necessarily a bad thing, especially if we exchange quantity (out) for quality (in). However our woeful track record with injuries suggests that having a really good starting eleven won't be anything like enough. I'm worried and make no apology for being so. 

I'd love to be wrong though. So here's hoping that Nat, you and the others who believe the future is so bright we all need to invest in sunglasses are right.

Keegan wrote:I suspect Neil is doing a version of Big Sam this summer - but approaching players with no transfer fee attached instead of aging stars. Players like Sergi who is available on a free, Austin who is rumoured to be leaving Leeds anyway, and players of a similar ilk - cheap, hungry for success and willing to fight. Apart from Eidur and Emile, the next Bolton team we see in the Championship will be young, lean and mean. We're going to kick some ass next season, believe me.

bwfc1874 wrote:Fuck me Rebel, you really are a complete bellend. We're one of the highest payers in the division - part of the reason we're in this mess so if you're going to moan at least make some effort to make it factual. 

You're the type of person who seems to enjoy being shit on, so much so you invent situations that you can feel hard done by about, grow a pair.

bwfc1874 wrote:Fuck me Rebel, you really are a complete bellend. We're one of the highest payers in the division - part of the reason we're in this mess so if you're going to moan at least make some effort to make it factual. 

ReebokRebel wrote:Can you back this information up with facts? We automatically release players earning a half decent wage regardless of how good they are or sell them... we have a history of doing it. I've invented nothing. The club is on its arse totally.

Breadman wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:Fuck me Rebel, you really are a complete bellend. We're one of the highest payers in the division - part of the reason we're in this mess so if you're going to moan at least make some effort to make it factual. 

But surely, the fact that Freedman and now Lennon have been tasked with getting the wage bill down, backs up Rebel's point?

You've sort of countered your own argument there by acknowledging that paying big wages has cost us in the past, so why would we continue to do so now, given that there's been so much emphasis on reducing the wage bill over the last couple of years?

bwfc1874 wrote:You're moaning about the club paying peanuts, the fact of the matter is we're one of the highest payers in the division. So yes you're talking complete bollocks, we got Baptiste ahead of Derby by offering him a massive contract, how do you explain that?

The club release players who don't justify a high wage, name one player who has been released that wanted to stay and we wanted to keep but we couldn't afford to?

Reebok_Rebel wrote:facts please...?

I have stated before that I have a friend who works on the HR team at Euxton, helps do accounts and payroll for the entire staff... believe me, the wage budget we have is ridiculous even by championship standards, the ONLY reason and i mean the ONLY reason we have not signed a player we wanted was because of wage demands - some of them not massive by championship standards either. The club point blank refuse to pay the going rate for any player and have not done for years. I get the odd tit-bit of info from him and he is not a lair. 

For example... 

Klasnic would have come back to us, the stumbling block was that his parent club paid 60% of his wages when he was on loan, he wanted to sign and would have even took a cut in wages - but we wanted him to take a cut equivalent to the 60% his parent club was paying, plus another 10% on that... a 70% reduction in earnings. Would you work for 70% less pay? would you fuck. Hence, we didnt sign Klasnic.

bwfc1874 wrote:
The claim that we pay peanuts in wages is complete and utter guff, that's not an opinion it's a fact.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote:facts please...?

I have stated before that I have a friend who works on the HR team at Euxton, helps do accounts and payroll for the entire staff... believe me, the wage budget we have is ridiculous even by championship standards, the ONLY reason and i mean the ONLY reason we have not signed a player we wanted was because of wage demands - some of them not massive by championship standards either. The club point blank refuse to pay the going rate for any player and have not done for years. I get the odd tit-bit of info from him and he is not a lair. 

For example... 

Klasnic would have come back to us, the stumbling block was that his parent club paid 60% of his wages when he was on loan, he wanted to sign and would have even took a cut in wages - but we wanted him to take a cut equivalent to the 60% his parent club was paying, plus another 10% on that... a 70% reduction in earnings. Would you work for 70% less pay? would you fuck. Hence, we didnt sign Klasnic.

We did sign Klasnic, he was on loan for one season and signed for us permanently after that. So that was a dreadful example to choose.

See my post above, all players we've pinched from other championship clubs because we've offered more money than they were on.

Breadman wrote:That data's two years old and refers to our first season after relegation from the Prem.

And since that time, everything at the club has been about slashing costs (including wages), so Rebel's point about not paying big wages for prospective new players now in 2015 still stands.