You know how someone said it could be worse

So raping a woman is fine but killing her isn't?

Just so we're clear.

Megson turns out to be loaded,and wants to buy the club.

Interested?

"would you sleep with me for a million quid?"
"yes"
"would you sleep with me for a penny?"
"no! what do you take me for?"
"we already know what you are, its just the price we are negotiating"

don't mean the analogy to offend, but its best I can think of for this bizarre exchange

boltonbonce wrote:Megson turns out to be loaded,and wants to buy the club.

Interested?

So long as the club in question isn't Bolton, I'd be fine with it. 

It is all shades of grey really.

We had Diouf - drink driver and arrested for wife beating - who is considered a legend by some Bolton fans.

We have Madine - a convicted thug - who currently leads our forward line.

We have Lennon - adulterer - who is our current manager.

Where do you draw the line?

Football clearly is more important than morals to the vast majority throughout the football viewing world - but then again we get what we deserve.

Pointless discussion about Evans though as it is nothing but a story made up on the internet.

After all WHO at Bolton calls the shots any more - who even as the authority to sign players right now?

It would not be in Birch's remit to bring players in I would have thought and I doubt Davies would fund him.  

So why are we getting worked up over nothing?

I think it highly unlikely that anyone could find any remote link between ANY soccer club and morals. The game is based on cheating, usury, financial irregularity, tax dodging, gambling and hedonistic self aggrandisement just to name a few blemishes.

Bollotom2014 wrote:I think it highly unlikely that anyone could find any remote link between ANY soccer club and morals. The game is based on cheating, usury, financial irregularity, tax dodging, gambling and hedonistic self aggrandisement just to name a few blemishes.

But apart from that........?

Breadman wrote:So raping a woman is fine but killing her isn't?

Just so we're clear.

I didn't say anything was ok.

But to be honest, right now I'd probably take a murderer if he could shoot straight.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Breadman wrote:So raping a woman is fine but killing her isn't?

Just so we're clear.

I didn't say anything was ok.

But to be honest, right now I'd probably take a murderer if he could shoot straight.

you would take anybody you dirty tart.

Sluffy wrote:It is all shades of grey really.

We had Diouf - drink driver and arrested for wife beating - who is considered a legend by some Bolton fans.

We have Madine - a convicted thug - who currently leads our forward line.

We have Lennon - adulterer - who is our current manager.

Where do you draw the line?

Football clearly is more important than morals to the vast majority throughout the football viewing world - but then again we get what we deserve.

Pointless discussion about Evans though as it is nothing but a story made up on the internet.

After all WHO at Bolton calls the shots any more - who even as the authority to sign players right now?

It would not be in Birch's remit to bring players in I would have thought and I doubt Davies would fund him.  

So why are we getting worked up over nothing?

Just add in the Nuts to the equation and I'm sure we can have an all-prison team of Nutters!

Stig Tofting was a nice bloke.

1. Orenthal James "O.J." Simpson - American football player O.J. Simpson plays football for the University of Southern California, where he wins the Heisman Trophy in 1968. He is the first draft pick for the NFL in 1969, and is the 1973 NFL player of the year. He plays in six Pro Bowls throughout his 10-year career. After his ex-wife, Nicole Brown, and her friend, Ron Goldman, are found murdered in 1994, O.J. Simpson stands trial for both homicides. Simpson assembles a "dream team" of lawyers, and is acquitted of criminal charges on Oct. 3, 1995, though he is convicted in civil court. In 2008, Simpson is convicted on a 2007 charge of kidnapping and armed robbery, and sentenced to 15 years in prison.




2. Rubin "Hurricane" Carter - American middleweight boxer Rubin Carter, a professional middleweight boxer and member of the New Jersey Boxing Hall of Fame, is arrested in 1966 for multiple homicides. He is convicted in 1967 after matching the description of a witness and sentenced to three life terms in prison. In 1985 his conviction is overturned and he is released from prison after a judge rules that he had not received a fair trial. His life inspires the Bob Dylan song "The Hurricane" and a movie starring Denzel Washington.



3. Hiroshi Ogawa - Japanese baseball player



Hiroshi Ogawa, a retired pitcher for the Chiba Lotte Marines of Nippon Professional Baseball, is convicted of murder in the first degree. According to the prosecution, Ogawa, 43, was heavily in debt and demanded money from the housekeeper of the chairman of an industrial waste plant. When she refused, he burglarized the house, stealing $20,000, and drowned the housekeeper, 67-year-old Kazuko Nishiuchi, in a nearby lake. On Sept. 29, 2005, he is convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
4. Bruno Souza - Brazilian soccer player Brazillian Bruno Souza, star goalkeeper of the celebrated Flamengo soccer club, is accused of arranging the killing of former lover, Eliza Samudio, a Brazilian model and mother to his child. "You don't know what I am capable of - I'm from the favela," he is alleged to have told her. According to the police, she was beaten and murdered by a former police officer, before parts of her were fed to dogs. The case has gripped Brazilian TV viewers, and is the latest in a series of troubling links between soccer stars and criminal organizations. He remained in jail early in 2013 as his trial continued.

5. Rae Carruth - American football player From 1997 to 1999, Rae Carruth is an NFL wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers. In 1999, his girlfriend Cherica Adams, eight months pregnant with his child at the time, is the victim of a drive-by shooting. She places a 911 call claiming that Carruth had driven in front of her and stopped his car while another vehicle stopped alongside her and the passenger shot her. Adams dies a month later, though their child survives. The Panthers release Carruth from his contract, and after a brief stint as a fugitive, Carruth goes on trial. He is convicted and sentenced to 18 to 24 years in prison.

6. Eric Naposki - American football player The hulking linebacker who played for the New England Patriots and Indianapolis Colts is serving life in prison for his role in a murderous love triangle. Naposki shot 55-year-old Willian McLaughlin six times at close range so his girlfriend, Nanette Packard, could collect life insurance worth $1 million, The Associated Press reported. McLaughlin died in 1994, but it wasn't until technological advancements allowed prosecutors to rexamine evidence and charge the duo with murder. Packard was also convicted of murder.

7. Robert Rozier - American football player Just to prove this isn't a new phenomenon, Rozier admitted to killing seven people as a member of "The Brotherhood," a black supremicist cult founded by a man named Yaweh ben Yaweh in the 1980s. It was Yaweh who encouraged his Temple of Love followers to kill a "white devil." Rozier testified against Yaweh and earned his freedom through witness protection. However, he ended up back in jail for forgery.

8. Gavin Grant - English football player In a London housing project, Grant killed a rival as part of an ongoing dispute over drug money in 2004. He was an up-and-coming soccer player with a seemingly bright future who tried to turn his life around when police charged him with murder years later, BBC said.

9. Mike Danton - Canadian ice hockey player Nobody died in this instance, but the case is too bizarre to exclude. Danton was playing with the St. Louis Blues when police charged him with conspiracy to commit murder, according to The Canadian Press. He tried to hire a hitman who later turned out to be a police officer. Danton has alternately said his target was his agent, David Frost, or his estranged father. He served several years in prison before earning his release. His hockey career eventually took him to Sweden and Slovakia.

10. Evangelos Goussis - Australian-Greek boxer A paid, underworld assassin now serving life in prison for two murders, Goussis is also a former Olympic boxer.

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I would add gang member Aaron Hernandez from the New England Patriots who was convicted of murder and is being investigated for two additional murders.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	4 Months	Released after serving 57 days[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	4 months, 2 years suspended	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	retired	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], assaulting police, failing to answer bail	3 months	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	affray	28 days	Released after serving 14 days.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]			120 hours community service	Brooker, Brown, Orr and Partridge were convicted for the same incident where they were involved in an assault on a doorman.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]			28 days
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]		affray and bodily harm	2 months	Released after one month[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	2 weeks	Released after 24 hours. Later overturned in favour of 120 hours [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] after appeal[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Retired	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	prison sentence not specified	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
		Breach of bail conditions	prison sentence not specified	Illegally removed electronic tag to go on holiday, therefore breaching court conditions[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
		[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	9 months suspended, 100 hours community service	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
		[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	12 months	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Driving while disqualified, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	4 months	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	8 months	Timm and Flanagan were convicted for the same incident where they were [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Causing [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	6 years	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Eligible for parole after 25 years.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Cleared of a 2005 murder in 2007.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Murder he was convicted of took place in May 2004, before the start of his professional career.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Wounding	80 hours community service
		Fraudulent use of vehicle license, theft	fined £280
		Credit card fraud	Community rehabilitation order
	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Obtaining property by deception and criminal damage	6 months community rehabilitation order
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		Assault and unprovoked attack	fined £1000
	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Assault	fined £300
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	7 years 4 months	Eligible for parole in three-and-a-half years' time[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Drink driving whilst banned	90 days	released after 30 days, served rest of sentence wearing [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	200 hours community service and a 6-month suspended jail sentence[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Retired	running a brothel	£700 fine and 6-month suspended	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
		car theft	2 years
		counterfeiting	3 years
		smuggling pornographic movies	28 days
		disorderly behaviour	28 days
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	assault causing actual bodily harm and criminal damage	£300 fine plus 100 hours community service	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
	Retired	[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	80 hours community service, fined £500
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]	Retired	Possession of drugs with intent to supply	8 years	Released after serving four years[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.][You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Add to that list Drunken Duncan Ferguson who did three months for assault before he joined Everton

If this is for real (and might be because FFP embargo doesn't apply to free agents) and we do sign this scum then BWFC can have my season ticket back and kiss off any more of my money for the rest of my lifetime. I could not look my wife and daughters in the eye and justify giving our family's money to an organisation that employs a convicted rapist who has lost two appeals already. End of.

luckyPeterpiper wrote:I could not look my wife and daughters in the eye and justify giving our family's money to an organisation that employs a convicted rapist who has lost two appeals already. End of.

I'm sure you give money to organisations that employ rapists, murderers and train fare dodgers every day of the week. There are criminals in every organisation. Convicted or not.

I would normally disapprove of signing a convicted rapist, but in this instance I'm not sure the guy did it. We should give him a chance.

And trust me, if he scores 15 goals and keeps us up he'll be a legend regardless of his past. Football fans are fickle.

i thought his case was being reviewed again, did i miss something and has it been rejected?

Norpig wrote:i thought his case was being reviewed again, did i miss something and has it been rejected?

I think they're waiting on a decision from the Courts.

If you read the facts of the case there are so many inconsistencies it's quite startling that he got convicted.

Beggars can't be choosers - if Evans score 15 goals for us will anyone complain? I don't think so. You're being asked to work (figuratively speaking) with them not sleep with them.

Add to the rumours Joe Cole is going to sign for us - apparently. Fed up with Coventry and on his way to us.

i always liked joe cole, but isn't he like 52?