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General Election - 8th June.

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61General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 16:56

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Wander and co: you are in perfect harmony with my own way of thinking. Kindred spirits on this issue.    Smile

62General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 17:01

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I'm still gobsmacked at some of the things they actually promised. Bringing back fox hunting FFS? Scrapping the Human Rights Act?

The Human Rights Act is a UK law passed in 1998. It means that you can defend your rights in the UK courts and that public organisations (including the Government, the Police and local councils) must treat everyone equally, with fairness, dignity and respect.


What possible motive have they got for scrapping that?


Perhaps their piss poor performance is a good thing in this case?

63General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 17:12

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

okocha wrote:Wander and co: you are in perfect harmony with my own way of thinking. Kindred spirits on this issue.    Smile

You should seek therapy.

64General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 17:16

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

2015 Conservative manifesto:
Despite a smattering of new spending pledges on everything from childcare to housebuilding, tackling the deficit still dominates the section of the Conservatives’ manifesto headed “A strong economy to help you and your family”


The document repeats George Osborne’s budget pledge for £30bn of spending cuts over the next two years, and warns that “failing to control our debt would be more than an economic failing; it would be a moral failing”.

Roll forward a year and the new Tory Chancellor Hammond, having failed to meet any of George Osborne's fiscal targets announces that public borrowing will have to be an astonishing £122 BILLION more than the Tories had estimated.
So to use the Chancellor's own words, was that economic failing, moral failing or both Phillip?

Or was it still Labour's fault?
Or is the fact that you couldn't manage your way out of a wet paper bag not the point because Government is all about breaksit?

65General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 17:43

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I phoned the surgery for an appointment this morning.
Two weeks. Christ,I'll be better by then.
Receptionist grilled me as to why I wanted to see the doctor,and I politely explained that it was none of her sodding business.
I've decided to take the road to herbal healing.

66General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 19:16

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Natasha Whittam wrote:
okocha wrote:Wander and co: you are in perfect harmony with my own way of thinking. Kindred spirits on this issue.    Smile

You should seek therapy.
Ironically, my job provides therapy. You are welcome to an appointment.

 No special rate for Wanderers fans. Chorley fans are double, however.

67General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 21:21

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

okocha wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:
okocha wrote:Wander and co: you are in perfect harmony with my own way of thinking. Kindred spirits on this issue.    Smile

You should seek therapy.
Ironically, my job provides therapy. You are welcome to an appointment.

 No special rate for Wanderers fans. Chorley fans are double, however.

Laughing

68General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Thu Apr 20 2017, 21:25

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

okocha wrote:Ironically, my job provides therapy. You are welcome to an appointment.

Canal Street I presume?

69General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 11:03

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Biggest fall in retail sales in 7 years.
...for all types of goods apart from clothing, shoes and textiles. 

Just goes to show that rising prices are starting to affect everyone apart from my missus although TBF she hasn't bought any textiles this week.

We're well on our way to the predicted 2.4% shrinkage of our economy although this wasn't anticipated to be reached until we have actually left the EU (based on the Government managing to secure trade deals of equal value to the ones we currently have)

The Office of National Statistics state that average store prices have increased 3.3% on the year - the largest rise since 2012 - and that petrol prices have risen 16.4% this year - which reflects the devaluation of sterling.

Twirls remain unaffected although it is expected they'll be a twentieth of their current size by October.

70General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 11:24

Bwfc1958

Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!

Theresa May well received in Bolton.... 

71General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 13:33

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

I barely know where to start now that I can vote here again. I'm going to start with Labour unless I can be convinced that there is a better alternative in the coming weeks. Unlikely I'm guessing.

72General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 13:46

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

It seems that the average working class man on the street has given up on Labour, the main issue being that they allowed unchecked immigration in the Blair/Brown eras and are now seen as being left wing champgane socialists who don't care about the working classes anymore.

I'm fed up of this election already as my facebook feed has gone into overdrive now with people i once thought were fairly sensible, spouting the things mentioned above and wanting that idiot Farage to be MP and generally being very right wing

73General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 14:04

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

This almost slipped under the radar when it first came out but now that there's an election imminent, it needs re-posting:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-nhs-us-trade-deal-brexit-torture-a7548156.html

Do...not...vote...Tory.....ever.

74General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 14:08

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Bread2.0 wrote:Do...not...vote...Tory.....ever.

I think you might be disappointed come the 8th June.

75General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 14:09

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

More than likely, but that said, why should June 8th be any different to any other day in my life?

76General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 14:13

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin

Labour is unelectable under Corbyn.

It's as simple as that really.

Even most of the Labour MP's know that and that is why they've tried their best to get rid of him since he was appointed.  

Nearly all of his first shadow cabinet has since quit it - and Andy Burnham who was second to Corbyn when selected, is now even quitting as an MP.

Labour will lose votes in this election - but maybe not that many actual seats as many are electorally 'safe'.

I would imagine UKIP votes will fall and Lib Dem will rise - with the Conservatives making the most gains because of this.

Smart move by May to call an election if for no other reason that everything has changed since the last general election just two years ago - with both the principle architects of the manifesto - Cameron and Osborne not standing this time.

It will strengthen her right to govern and to take on Brexit in the way she wants to do it.

I think ultimately that that is a good thing.

Somebody needs to take charge at times like this.

As you simply can't please everyone all the time.

Shame Cameron led us into this needless mess anyway, just to deal with some in-house political point scoring within his party.

77General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 14:35

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

The various opposition parties like to say that May has no mandate to govern.

Well come the 8th June she will have a mandate and hopefully a majority of 50 - 100 seats.

She can then get on with negotiating our exit from the EU , without the spoiling tactics of the people who don't seem to understand that the electorate voted for Brexit.

78General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 16:06

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Bread2.0 wrote:This almost slipped under the radar when it first came out but now that there's an election imminent, it needs re-posting:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-nhs-us-trade-deal-brexit-torture-a7548156.html

Do...not...vote...Tory.....ever.
The Tories won't rest until they have privatised the NHS, the bastards

79General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 16:48

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Cajunboy wrote:The various opposition parties like to say that May has no mandate to govern.

Well come the 8th June she will have a mandate and hopefully a majority of 50 - 100 seats.

She can then get on with negotiating our exit from the EU , without the spoiling tactics of the people who don't seem to understand that the electorate voted for Brexit.
I think everybody has got the hang of the fact that we are leaving the EU by now so if anyone needs to move on it's the Tories who keep conveniently harking back to it instead of talking about what's actually happening in the country. 
Surely this election is about what Britain wants to be, but the Tories are trying to make it about Brexit and not the real issues they are failing us on so at best it's a decoy.
Being out of the EU is a symptom, not a solution and we need to have a serious dialogue about jobs, health, education, services and what we're aiming for.

80General Election - 8th June. - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election - 8th June. Fri Apr 21 2017, 18:48

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

wanderlust wrote:
Cajunboy wrote:The various opposition parties like to say that May has no mandate to govern.

Well come the 8th June she will have a mandate and hopefully a majority of 50 - 100 seats.

She can then get on with negotiating our exit from the EU , without the spoiling tactics of the people who don't seem to understand that the electorate voted for Brexit.
I think everybody has got the hang of the fact that we are leaving the EU by now so if anyone needs to move on it's the Tories who keep conveniently harking back to it instead of talking about what's actually happening in the country. 
Surely this election is about what Britain wants to be, but the Tories are trying to make it about Brexit and not the real issues they are failing us on so at best it's a decoy.
Being out of the EU is a symptom, not a solution and we need to have a serious dialogue about jobs, health, education, services and what we're aiming for.
I totally agree with you.

 The so called bed -blocking caused by the lack of investment in social care is continually  swept under the carpet.  All the problems of people living longer, but with  more health problems is a massive subject,   that should be confronted  by and across all parties and should not be a political football.  Sadly it will remain a political football.

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