Jon Flanagan: Fuck Off

Sluffy wrote:They were both in the wrong.

The law doesn't have different punishments depending on if someone attacked a man or a woman - it is the same crime and the same punishment.

So legally Leeds is correct in what he says.

Morally though it is reprehensible for any bloke to attack a woman just because they can.

There is a documentary on BBC iplayer at the moment - Stacey Dooley investigates - Russia's war on women - which is about wife beating.

I found it compelling viewing and can't understand a culture than thinks it is right for a wife to still be a possession of a woman once they are married as we are now in the twenty first century and no longer in the Stone Age. 

It shows one or two appalling clips of women being knocked about by their 'better' half.

Makes you worry about what the world is coming to when Putin's Russia thinks nothing of a pisshead battering his wife around a bit just to make him feel a bit better.

Maybe Phil Neville is the manager of the wrong country's Ladies football team?

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Leeds_Trotter wrote:
I watched that the other day Sluffy, it was a good watch. I always enjoy watching her documentaries. You watched any of her others?

RustyNail wrote:I work in the justice system, and the low sentence would suggest the assault was a very minor one, with little actual harm caused, eg. a push, or that there were mitigating factors that the judge took in to account, eg. she attacked him first.

Does anyone know any more details of the case? What did he actually do?

RustyNail wrote:I work in the justice system

observer wrote:

RustyNail wrote:I work in the justice system, and the low sentence would suggest the assault was a very minor one, with little actual harm caused, eg. a push, or that there were mitigating factors that the judge took in to account, eg. she attacked him first.

Does anyone know any more details of the case? What did he actually do?

BBC reported the following:

Liverpool Magistrates' Court heard he "slammed" his partner against the wall and kicked her "while she was on the floor" in Liverpool on 22 December.

The court was shown CCTV footage of Flanagan hitting his partner, pushing her against a wall twice and then kicking her in Duke Street in the city centre at about 03:20 GMT.
Alan Currums, prosecuting, said a witness stated he had "seen the male throw the female against the wall and then kick her while she was on the floor".
He said the man saw Flanagan place one hand on Ms Wall's neck and one on her throat before he "slammed her against the wall".
The witness said he shouted from his balcony to Flanagan that he was "out of order" and the footballer replied with offensive language that he would "come and knock you out".


Both parties claimed to have been under the influence... but this was no love tap!

Natasha Whittam wrote:

RustyNail wrote:I work in the justice system

I'm not sure cleaning the bogs at Bolton Magistrates' Court counts as "working in the justice system".

finlaymcdanger wrote:

observer wrote:

RustyNail wrote:I work in the justice system, and the low sentence would suggest the assault was a very minor one, with little actual harm caused, eg. a push, or that there were mitigating factors that the judge took in to account, eg. she attacked him first.

Does anyone know any more details of the case? What did he actually do?

BBC reported the following:

Liverpool Magistrates' Court heard he "slammed" his partner against the wall and kicked her "while she was on the floor" in Liverpool on 22 December.

The court was shown CCTV footage of Flanagan hitting his partner, pushing her against a wall twice and then kicking her in Duke Street in the city centre at about 03:20 GMT.
Alan Currums, prosecuting, said a witness stated he had "seen the male throw the female against the wall and then kick her while she was on the floor".
He said the man saw Flanagan place one hand on Ms Wall's neck and one on her throat before he "slammed her against the wall".
The witness said he shouted from his balcony to Flanagan that he was "out of order" and the footballer replied with offensive language that he would "come and knock you out".


Both parties claimed to have been under the influence... but this was no love tap!

Doesn't sound very minor to me.

I'm surprised men who treat women like this actually survive to tell the story. If anyone did this to my mother, wife or daughter (if I had one) they'd be in bits.

boltonbonce wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

RustyNail wrote:I work in the justice system

I'm not sure cleaning the bogs at Bolton Magistrates' Court counts as "working in the justice system".

Then he works in the justice cistern.

boltonbonce wrote:Then he works in the justice cistern.

wessy wrote:Not sure about the second chance argument, No real man would hit a woman, however the real disappointment is that it's BWFC that decided to give him that second chance.

I have two daughters and four granddaughters i expect any man to treat them with respect and to protect rather than harm them.

Paid a price or not i could never respect that type of man.

Boggersbelief wrote:

wessy wrote:Not sure about the second chance argument, No real man would hit a woman, however the real disappointment is that it's BWFC that decided to give him that second chance.

I have two daughters and four granddaughters i expect any man to treat them with respect and to protect rather than harm them.

Paid a price or not i could never respect that type of man.

Yawn. Get off your high horse