HomeIs he mad even to think about this. he's generally well liked, got a good reputation, seems like a nice bloke and is utterly inexperienced as a manager. And yet he's thinking od going into the cauldron of Glasgow football. Personally I think he's off his rocker even thinking about taking the job. It will destroy him.
Stevie G and Rangers
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2 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 12:00
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
I agree Rammy it's too big a job to walk straight into with virtually no experience. If he does take it and it all goes tits up then he would struggle to get another job at a decent level.
He should learn his trade by either working his way up through Liverpool or drop down to league 1 or 2.
He should learn his trade by either working his way up through Liverpool or drop down to league 1 or 2.
3 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 12:04
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
If he wants to join us next year- I wouldn't say no as he could get a load of Liverpool's third stream players to join us on loan. They'd be better and more enthusiastic than the shower that we have now
4 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 12:06
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
As long as he doesn't bring Flanagan back with him. he's been crap!
5 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 12:09
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig wrote:As long as he doesn't bring Flanagan back with him. he's been crap!
Say something positive
6 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 12:18
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:As long as he doesn't bring Flanagan back with him. he's been crap!
Say something positive
He's been proper good crap
7 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 12:35
MartinBWFC
Ivan Campo
If anybody can stop Brendan Rogers winning the league Gerrard can, he's done it before.
8 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 12:51
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
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MartinBWFC wrote:If anybody can stop Brendan Rogers winning the league Gerrard can, he's done it before.
9 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 13:26
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
ok, i can guarantee 100% you are a knobhead, will that do?Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:As long as he doesn't bring Flanagan back with him. he's been crap!
Say something positive
10 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 13:32
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig wrote:ok, i can guarantee 100% you are a knobhead, will that do?Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:As long as he doesn't bring Flanagan back with him. he's been crap!
Say something positive
Is that positive?
11 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 13:40
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
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No, it’s juat a statement of fact.Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:ok, i can guarantee 100% you are a knobhead, will that do?Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:As long as he doesn't bring Flanagan back with him. he's been crap!
Say something positive
Is that positive?
12 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 14:10
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
i'm so happy the DNA test came back and i'm not your Dad, good news for us both (any better?)Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:ok, i can guarantee 100% you are a knobhead, will that do?Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:As long as he doesn't bring Flanagan back with him. he's been crap!
Say something positive
Is that positive?
13 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Wed May 02 2018, 16:53
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
MartinBWFC wrote:If anybody can stop Brendan Rogers winning the league Gerrard can, he's done it before.
14 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Thu May 03 2018, 10:50
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
If Gerard is promised a ton of money - and that will depend how much the Huns have progressed financially since their demotion debacle - and if he is working with a more experienced manager as his assistant, then he may well take the job but having watched Celtic maul them 5 nil last week the size of the task can't be underestimated and the pressure to succeed will be greater than he has ever experienced so it's a tough call.
15 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Thu May 03 2018, 12:59
finlaymcdanger
Frank Worthington
Agree with the notion that it could ultimately be a disaster for Gerrard.
But, surely a Rangers move IS the equivalent of starting his managerial career in the lower leagues (League 1 standard?) and therefore a good place to start if you're of the opinion that is where managers should start out?
It would also be a high profile appointment and therefore attract much media focus which I would image is a positive for him.
Surely, finishing second behind Celtic next season wouldn't be deemed a failure on his part unless the club are completely out of their minds.
I'd have thought the club should clearly outline their short-term expectations of him (2nd?) with the intention of progressing over the next 3 years in line with available investment.
Giggs is a good example of how difficult it is to come by managerial roles so I'm not sure passing up this opportunity would be a good choice.
I guess we'll find out soon enough.
But, surely a Rangers move IS the equivalent of starting his managerial career in the lower leagues (League 1 standard?) and therefore a good place to start if you're of the opinion that is where managers should start out?
It would also be a high profile appointment and therefore attract much media focus which I would image is a positive for him.
Surely, finishing second behind Celtic next season wouldn't be deemed a failure on his part unless the club are completely out of their minds.
I'd have thought the club should clearly outline their short-term expectations of him (2nd?) with the intention of progressing over the next 3 years in line with available investment.
Giggs is a good example of how difficult it is to come by managerial roles so I'm not sure passing up this opportunity would be a good choice.
I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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16 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Thu May 03 2018, 13:11
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Yeah. League 1 standard with an average gate of nearly 50,000 and a worldwide following.finlaymcdanger wrote:
But, surely a Rangers move IS the equivalent of starting his managerial career in the lower leagues and therefore a good place to start if you're of the opinion that is where managers should start? The majority of the SPL teams are League 1 standard.
17 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Thu May 03 2018, 14:52
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
finlaymcdanger wrote:Agree with the notion that it could ultimately be a disaster for Gerrard.
But, surely a Rangers move IS the equivalent of starting his managerial career in the lower leagues and therefore a good place to start if you're of the opinion that is where managers should start? The majority of the SPL teams are League 1 standard. Despite this be a high profile appointment and therefore keep his name in the press and attract much attention which I would image is a positive. Surely, finishing second behind Celtic next season wouldn't be deemed a failure on his part unless they're absolutely out of their minds. The club should outline their short-term expectations of him (2nd) with the intention of progressing, with investment, and challenging within the next 3 years.
I'm not so sure it would be such a terrible choice for him.
Fin- its not just a football club in a basic league. Its a culture ,a following a manifestation of hundreds of years of history. The other half of Glasgow (the Celtic support) will see him as a figure worthy of contempt for being a Hun and I don't think he's mentally prepared for just what he's letting himself in for. He could never walk the streets of Glasgow or even live there given the emotion that accompanies following one of the Old firm.
I was born there and we have a holiday cottage near Stirling (about 30 miles from Glasgow, and we make sure that we're not there when they play each other because the atmosphere is too tense ,sometimes bordering on poisonous. He's a good bloke, a likeable character and he's walking into a cauldron of blind emotion and irrational behaviour. He'd be far better of as assistant manager to a good championship or premiership side for a few years to earn his spurs.
18 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Thu May 03 2018, 14:56
finlaymcdanger
Frank Worthington
rammywhite wrote:finlaymcdanger wrote:Agree with the notion that it could ultimately be a disaster for Gerrard.
But, surely a Rangers move IS the equivalent of starting his managerial career in the lower leagues and therefore a good place to start if you're of the opinion that is where managers should start? The majority of the SPL teams are League 1 standard. Despite this be a high profile appointment and therefore keep his name in the press and attract much attention which I would image is a positive. Surely, finishing second behind Celtic next season wouldn't be deemed a failure on his part unless they're absolutely out of their minds. The club should outline their short-term expectations of him (2nd) with the intention of progressing, with investment, and challenging within the next 3 years.
I'm not so sure it would be such a terrible choice for him.
Fin- its not just a football club in a basic league. Its a culture ,a following a manifestation of hundreds of years of history. The other half of Glasgow (the Celtic support) will see him as a figure worthy of contempt for being a Hun and I don't think he's mentally prepared for just what he's letting himself in for. He could never walk the streets of Glasgow or even live there given the emotion that accompanies following one of the Old firm.
I was born there and we have a holiday cottage near Stirling (about 30 miles from Glasgow, and we make sure that we're not there when they play each other because the atmosphere is too tense ,sometimes bordering on poisonous. He's a good bloke, a likeable character and he's walking into a cauldron of blind emotion and irrational behaviour. He'd be far better of as assistant manager to a good championship or premiership side for a few years to earn his spurs.
I totally understand your point of view but a character like Gerrard didn't achieve everything he did by being hesitant and shying away from a challenge. I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised either way because I can see both sides of the argument
19 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Thu May 03 2018, 14:59
finlaymcdanger
Frank Worthington
wanderlust wrote:Yeah. League 1 standard with an average gate of nearly 50,000 and a worldwide following.finlaymcdanger wrote:
But, surely a Rangers move IS the equivalent of starting his managerial career in the lower leagues and therefore a good place to start if you're of the opinion that is where managers should start? The majority of the SPL teams are League 1 standard.
He's performed at the highest level in front of huge crowds week in week out for many years. I'm not convinced that is of any concern to him
20 Re: Stevie G and Rangers Thu May 03 2018, 15:22
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
He should start at a lesser club. League two
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