Brexit negotiations

Angry Dad wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeDjrHdTsv8

"BLOOD THIRSTY BABY EATING MUSLIMS SLAUGHTER PENSIONERS"

Did HN do the subtitles?

Of course Colorado Boulder News who produced this are a spoof website who post real footage with controversial SHOCK HORROR subtitles purely to see if anyone is stupid enough to bite - as a few Brexiteers did on this one.

Here's there "expose" of the SHOCKING reason why the Beatles met with Cassius Clay...

Coming soon:

"JESUS ATE MY HAMSTER!"

Another rich brexiteer demonstrates his love for Britain by moving overseas after fucking the rest of us:

Britain's richest man is planning to avoid up to £4bn in UK taxes after moving his home and money to Monaco, the Sunday Times reports on its front page. Prominent Brexiteer Sir Jim Ratcliffe last week criticised the EU over its "stupid" green taxes.

A prominent Brexiteer is planning to avoid up to £4bn in UK taxes after moving his home and money to Monaco, the Sunday Times reports on its front page.

Sir Jim Radcliffe - who built up the chemicals giant Ineos and is Britain's richest man - has been working with accountants PwC on a "labyrinthine" tax avoidance plan, a source told the paper.

The front of the newspaper also features claims that Brexit supporting Conservative MPs have rejected attempts by Theresa May to get them to back her deal for leaving the EU.

It quotes leaked WhatsApp messages from the deputy chairman of the European Research Group of Tory MPs, Steve Baker, saying it insists the so-called backstop - to prevent the return of a hard border in Ireland - be removed from the Withdrawal Agreement. He says a failure to do so would lead to a split in the party.

Over a million employers have established auto-enrolment pensions for their workers since Cameron introduced the scheme and as of April, those workers will have an extra 2% taken out of their pay packets (up to 5%). Not sure of the total number of workers/families affected - but probably in excess of 10 million. Employers will also have to find another 1% match contribution (up to 3%)

Traditionally, pension contributions were collected via NI and Income Tax however those particular taxes won and lost elections so this form of stealth tax was preferred and is unlikely to have the same political effect as the Chancellor announcing e.g. a 2% rise in NI - even though that's effectively what's happening.

Obviously NI and Income Tax are used for other things apart from pensions but they remain at existing levels and at the same time workers will have to cough up an additional 2% of their pay packets whichever way you stack it up.

As for Employers, their contribution to workers' pensions is an allowable expense for tax purposes, but will they will nonetheless need to generate the additional profit to cover the outlay.

Story here.

wanderlust wrote:Over a million employers have established auto-enrolment pensions for their workers since Cameron introduced the scheme and as of April, those workers will have an extra 2% taken out of their pay packets (up to 5%). Not sure of the total number of workers/families affected - but probably in excess of 10 million. Employers will also have to find another 1% match contribution (up to 3%)

Traditionally, pension contributions were collected via NI and Income Tax however those particular taxes won and lost elections so this form of stealth tax was preferred and is unlikely to have the same political effect as the Chancellor announcing e.g. a 2% rise in NI - even though that's effectively what's happening.

Obviously NI and Income Tax are used for other things apart from pensions but they remain at existing levels and at the same time workers will have to cough up an additional 2% of their pay packets whichever way you stack it up.

As for Employers, their contribution to workers' pensions is an allowable expense for tax purposes, but will they will nonetheless need to generate the additional profit to cover the outlay.

Story here.

What has this to do with brexit?

xmiles wrote:

wanderlust wrote:Over a million employers have established auto-enrolment pensions for their workers since Cameron introduced the scheme and as of April, those workers will have an extra 2% taken out of their pay packets (up to 5%). Not sure of the total number of workers/families affected - but probably in excess of 10 million. Employers will also have to find another 1% match contribution (up to 3%)

Traditionally, pension contributions were collected via NI and Income Tax however those particular taxes won and lost elections so this form of stealth tax was preferred and is unlikely to have the same political effect as the Chancellor announcing e.g. a 2% rise in NI - even though that's effectively what's happening.

Obviously NI and Income Tax are used for other things apart from pensions but they remain at existing levels and at the same time workers will have to cough up an additional 2% of their pay packets whichever way you stack it up.

As for Employers, their contribution to workers' pensions is an allowable expense for tax purposes, but will they will nonetheless need to generate the additional profit to cover the outlay.

Story here.

What has this to do with brexit?

Fair point. At first I thought the relevance was the timing of this inasmuch that it will compound the problems of those who will be worst affected by Brexit, but on reflection it probably won't affect the wages packets of many as they'll be unemployed before long anyway. But you're probably right - it should really be in the Stealth Tax thread.

This is what happens on a pro-brexit demo - the morons attack emergency workers!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47270935

Tommy Robinson's mates.

Looks to be about 13 people there.

These are the people who will "take to the streets" when brexit doesn't happen.

Every other leave voter will just get on with it.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Tommy Robinson's mates.

Looks to be about 13 people there.

These are the people who will "take to the streets" when brexit doesn't happen.

Every other leave voter will just get on with it.

Miah Levy has already taken to the streets.

The John Oliver take on Brexit. Eight minutes in if you can't wait.

Honda announce closure of Swindon plant on back of the EU - Japan tariff free trade deal.
Another 3500 jobs.

wanderlust wrote:Honda announce closure of Swindon plant on back of the EU - Japan tariff free trade deal.
Another 3500 jobs.

You keep finding stuff to fit your agenda Wander!

No things keep happening that support remainers original arguments Karly.

Not that actual facts will ever have any effect on brexit fans. They have the power of magic thinking on their side.

wanderlust wrote:

gloswhite wrote:Its very clear in my mind what I voted for, and why. No point talking to you or other remainers about it, as you have made your own minds up from day 1, and have worn blinkers ever since.

Out of interest, would you mind sharing which Brexit you voted for?

You didn't really expect a reply did you WL?

Brexit = Break Britain not Great Britain

boltonbonce wrote:The John Oliver take on Brexit. Eight minutes in if you can't wait.

I wonder how many brexit fans watched this?

Probably none because facts confuse them.

xmiles wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

gloswhite wrote:Its very clear in my mind what I voted for, and why. No point talking to you or other remainers about it, as you have made your own minds up from day 1, and have worn blinkers ever since.

Out of interest, would you mind sharing which Brexit you voted for?

You didn't really expect a reply did you WL?

You still haven't replied as to why you don't voluntarily pay more tax

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

xmiles wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

gloswhite wrote:Its very clear in my mind what I voted for, and why. No point talking to you or other remainers about it, as you have made your own minds up from day 1, and have worn blinkers ever since.

Out of interest, would you mind sharing which Brexit you voted for?

You didn't really expect a reply did you WL?

You still haven't replied as to why you don't voluntarily pay more tax

When did you stop beating your wife/girlfriend/boyfriend?

After anger management classes