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1First Brexit MP today? Empty First Brexit MP today? on Thu Jun 06 2019, 22:25

Sluffy

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Results of the Peterborough by-election (they sacked the former dodgy woman Labour MP for telling lies to avoid a speeding ticket - and other unscrupulous things!) are in around 3.00am this morning (Friday) and the Brexit bloke - Mike Greene - is favourite to win.

He was also a Secret Millionaire in Peterborough not that long back too!

2First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 07:07

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Embarrassing that they couldn't win this seat really.

Previous labour MP sent to prison. This labour MP happily posting anti semetic content on Facebook. 

But labour threw the kitchen sink at it bussing in anti semetic MPs such as Richard burgon to campaign for this lunatic.

3First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 08:08

Sluffy

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I'm a bit surprised to wake up and find a Labour hold against Brexit to be honest considering Peterborough voted 61% to leave in the referendum and in the European elections just a couple of weeks ago Peterborough voted only 17% for Labour and a whopping 38% for Brexit.

(see the find your Council search on the link below - Note it is not the first and most obvious search feature shown, it is a bit further down in the article under the map of Britain -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48403131  ).

Will be interesting to see the fall out from this result as the Conservatives fear a wipe out from Farage and his Brexit Party if they don't deliver Brexit before the next General Election, whilst it seems the public may see the difference for voting UKIP initially, Leave and more recently the Brexit party, at the Europeans and referendum yet reject them at the General Elections, where 'when push comes to shove' it seems the majority doesn't really seem to fancy the uncertainty of us leaving the EU.

Only one result admittedly but I think most with the rise of the Brexit Party, its overwhelming results just two weeks back in the Europeans, a clearly 'Brexit' vote at the referendum and reinforced again a fortnight ago - and with a local boy done good candidate standing for the Brexit Party should have strolled this one - and that's not even taking into account the totally unacceptable and illegal behaviour of the previous Labour Party incumbent.

Anyway the results -

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4First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 08:40

Norpig

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Well that should quieten down Farage for a while, it just shows the votes for the Brexit party in the European elections was nothing more than a protest vote.
All this talk of Labour being ant-semitic is ridiculous, why is being pro Palestine now being labelled as being anti-semitic? Nothing  much mentioned about the Tory party being called anti-islamic or anti-muslim by the British Muslim Council, that seems to have been swept under the carpet.

5First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 08:59

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
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Nat Lofthouse
Oh dear oh dear.

6First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 09:06

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
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@Sluffy wrote:I'm a bit surprised to wake up and find a Labour hold against Brexit to be honest considering Peterborough voted 61% to leave in the referendum and in the European elections just a couple of weeks ago Peterborough voted only 17% for Labour and a whopping 38% for Brexit.


It does make you wonder how much real support there is for brexit. The EU was a non topic for most people until Cameron tried to placate the rabid wing of the Tory party. It has always been about the Tory party not the country.

7First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 09:36

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Never heard anyone mentioned their devotion to the EU either.  

Now we can't live without it apparently.

8First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 09:48

Norpig

Norpig
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Nat Lofthouse
I voted remain and obviously we lost so i will accept we are leaving Europe. What i can't accept is that we leave with no deal on the table, we need to have something in place with our biggest trading partners in Europe. Leaving with no deal will ruin this country for years to come and we will be at the mercy of the likes of the US and feeding for scraps from their table.

9First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 09:58

Hipster_Nebula

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https://twitter.com/addicted2newz/status/1136811703021264897?s=19

Embarrassing.

She liked posts saying Israel was behind Isis by accident apparently.

I'm sure it's just because of her love for Palestine though.

She'll be in the cabinet with views like this.

10First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Fri Jun 07 2019, 10:49

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Never heard anyone mentioned their devotion to the EU either.  

Now we can't live without it apparently.

You are missing the point.

Our membership of the EU was not a contentious issue for most people before Cameron called the referendum. Now the country is very divided over the question. If we had not had the referendum the EU would still not be a contentious issue.

11First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sat Jun 08 2019, 00:19

Sluffy

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12First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sat Jun 08 2019, 21:48

gloswhite

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@xmiles wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Never heard anyone mentioned their devotion to the EU either.  

Now we can't live without it apparently.

You are missing the point.

Our membership of the EU was not a contentious issue for most people before Cameron called the referendum. Now the country is very divided over the question. If we had not had the referendum the EU would still not be a contentious issue.
Wrong !!!
The EU was,  is, will always be,  a contentious issue. This is the first time in 40 years that the public were given the opportunity to say so.

13First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sat Jun 08 2019, 22:27

Angry Dad

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Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Why are british state pensioners paid far less than other EU state pensioners.

14First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sat Jun 08 2019, 23:23

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@gloswhite wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Never heard anyone mentioned their devotion to the EU either.  

Now we can't live without it apparently.

You are missing the point.

Our membership of the EU was not a contentious issue for most people before Cameron called the referendum. Now the country is very divided over the question. If we had not had the referendum the EU would still not be a contentious issue.
Wrong !!!
The EU was,  is, will always be,  a contentious issue. This is the first time in 40 years that the public were given the opportunity to say so.

No you are totally wrong glos! Here is the evidence of what mattered to people other than Tory nutters in 2016:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi31aXg9driAhWysHEKHfi-DhUQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indy100.com%2Farticle%2Fthese-are-the-biggest-issues-in-the-uk-according-to-the-public--Z1GbiQX4Tx&usg=AOvVaw3V90JP8DFbTJ0EEZnmK5in

15First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 10:00

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Immigration is inextricably linked to the free movement from the EU. In a lot of people's minds anyway.

16First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 10:56

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
True - yet it turned out the Leave line of us having no control over our borders was a load of bollocks anyway.

17First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 13:01

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Excellent. How do we stop free movement. I'm sure Femi is all over it.

18First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 17:04

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Four ways we can control/manage immigration in the agreement we already have:

1. Restriction/stopping of eu migration from new member countries.
2. Ability to prosecute benefit fraud and “welfare tourism” by eu migrants
3. Ability to return eu migrants to home country if not “economically active” after 3 months
4. Emergency brake on welfare payments

Your lot won't mention this though, as the more simplistic 'we've no control' narrative is an easier sell.

Not sure if your comment means you want to stop EU immigration altogether, I'm assuming not as that would be a disaster. Sure there are a fair few who do want to see that though.

19First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 19:29

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
So we can't stop free movement then.

No one wants to stop immigration. Like hundreds of other countries, bigoted ones of course, like Japan, NZ, Australia. They just want to decide who comes in.

If the current level of immigration is of benefit then we can just carry on in the vein after we leave.

20First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 19:55

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Nobody said bigot, you love playing a victim.

On your main point, no we can’t stop it fully - but those restrictions disprove what your side used as a central argument in the campaign.

Personally I think the economic benefits to being part of the EU are worth signing up to freedom of movement. Clearly you, and a lot of other people, don’t agree - which is a fair position to take, I’m not knocking it.

And finally, there are plenty who do want to stop immigration all together (idiots) you’ve spent enough time on twitter to know that’s true.

21First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 20:29

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
TROY, do you iron your underpants?

22First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 21:53

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@T.R.O.Y wrote:Nobody said bigot, you love playing a victim.

On your main point, no we can’t stop it fully - but those restrictions disprove what your side used as a central argument in the campaign.

Personally I think the economic benefits to being part of the EU are worth signing up to freedom of movement. Clearly you, and a lot of other people, don’t agree - which is a fair position to take, I’m not knocking it.

And finally, there are plenty who do want to stop immigration all together (idiots) you’ve spent enough time on twitter to know that’s true.

And I've spent enough time on twitter to know that remain types think a desire to control immigration is bigoted for some reason. We could actually increase if after brexit. Why haven't they thought of that.

23First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Sun Jun 09 2019, 22:16

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Nobheads on both sides, no denying that.

24First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Wed Jun 12 2019, 14:50

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
But this is exactly why they collect money this way! How else can they hide the names of the crooks and foreigners who fund the Brexit party?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48611704

25First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Mon Jun 17 2019, 18:35

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

26First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Mon Jun 17 2019, 18:50

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Disappointed if the allegations are true but not seething.

27First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Mon Jun 17 2019, 20:16

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Labour and postal voting. No I'm sure everything was above board.

Look at tower Hamlets, a beacon of hope against right wing hate.

28First Brexit MP today? Empty Re: First Brexit MP today? on Mon Jun 17 2019, 20:23

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Corruption is bad for democracy whether it is stuffing the ballot box or illegally financing political parties and planting false stories in the media.

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