Wilder v Fury

Any preference? I cant decide due to Fury's lay off plus i think if Vlad had let his punches go he would have got fury out of there and wilder never stops throwing bombs so he should be my obvious pick but i have nagging doubts that said i like Fury over AJ easy if it ever happens and Wilder to do the same. Fury couldn't hack the Big Bear camp  because of stamina problems inc breathing so they took him down to start another camp not good i think against an athletic punching machine that does not tire at all and has a good recovery and solid chin. I guess i'm talking myself into a Wilder victory by KO but.......

Fury needed a few more fights before he went in with Wilder but Fury is a very awkward fighter and will cause Wilder some problems. I remember Ortiz should really have finished off Wilder when they fought but Wilder came back to win. I can see the same happening again so will go with Wilder with a late stoppage.

Wilder in three.

I get the impression fury is only after the money as he has said he does not really give a toss about the money which says to me he does, but then he seems to want to stick it to AJ by winning?? a very complicated man. Wilder says he is fighting for his sick daughters future and is only motivated by that which is money again, they both say they want to unify the titles, who want's it more that's the question i think or maybe Wilders punch power makes it irrelevent would not put any money on this fight.

Fury is actually three years younger than Wilder, which makes it quite an unusual contest as such, usually it is an 'older' boxer trying to make some sort of a comeback, in fact the only instance I can think of where a boxer in his prime and at the top of his profession took a career break other than for doping or injury, is Muhammad Ali back in 1960's - and similar to Fury he took a two fight comeback before taking on the then World Champion - Joe Frazier, whom he lost to.

It's logical to think the same will happen again here but Fury somehow seems defy logic!

I guess there is a whiff of possible drug issues with him and clearly it was very odd behaviour of his following the Klitschko fight but he does spice up the heavyweight division with his return.

He certainly surprised Klitschko to beat him and I've got a nagging feeling he's going to do the same here against Wilder.

Clearly Wilder's camp have taken on the fight because they think it is a nailed on win and boxing does end up with some very strange a dubious results, which if Fury wins will probably be seen as such, so I'm going against my own common sense and sticking my neck out and predicting a Tyson Fury win!

Angry Dad wrote:I get the impression fury is only after the money as he has said he does not really give a toss about the money which says to me he does, but then he seems to want to stick it to AJ by winning?? a very complicated man. Wilder says he is fighting for his sick daughters future and is only motivated by that which is money again, they both say they want to unify the titles, who want's it more that's the question i think or maybe Wilders punch power makes it irrelevent would not put any money on this fight.

Fury has always made it clear he was only in boxing for the money, although as this article states he doesn't care much for it. He is very much a contradiction to himself and the article was written about his battle with his demons long before he fought Klitschko and his subsequent break from boxing -

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/tyson-fury-interview-god-and-the-devil-temptation-money-and-sweets-the-fearsome-world-of-fury-10071077.html#r3z-addoor

I'm sure i heard this morning that Fury was donating all his money from this fight to charity?

It looks to me that Fury still isn't quite right mentally for this fight there is too much going on inside his head. You can't give all that money away after all that training. I do lean a little in favour of a points win for him if pushed but i can see no escape for that large head of his if he gets stunned Wilder will not let him off.This fight could be great for him or an absolute disaster.I think Wilder has more to prove he gets a raw deal from critics for such an exciting finisher.

Wilder will moider him.

Maybe a load of bollox but apparently Fury has discussed the possibility of going for a 1st round ko on Wilder seems he's a bit anxious about a long fight his trainer said maybe not a good idea but why not!!

Great fight tif. God knows how Fury got back up in the 12th to hold out for a deserved draw.

Very pleased for Fury - an amazing comeback for him (shades of Lance Armstrong return from cancer - hopefully without the drugs!).

I didn't see the fight it was on about 4.30am over here but I think Fury's promoter summed up the match by saying despite it being a home town jury and despite being knocked down twice - they STILL give him the draw - implying that Fury probably would have been given the win any place else!

For my money Fury is again top dog of the heavyweights and there are now some great match up's to look forward to, including a couple of upcoming British boxers Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois, plus Dillian Whyte and the erratic Derek Chisora.

Fun times again for boxing!

Never mind the Judges where was the ref when Fury hit the deck very late start to the count Wilder robbed in my view.

Angry Dad wrote:Never mind the Judges where was the ref when Fury hit the deck very late start to the count Wilder robbed in my view.

The refs don't do the count - a ringside official (timekeeper) starts it when a boxer hits the deck, and he counts the seconds strictly from his stopwatch - the ref just picks up the count from them.

I thought you would have known that?

A good fight  Fury controlled it until the 9th.  How he got up in the 12th was Undertaker like (WWE)



Should have been Fury's victory.  The scorecard from the Rochen was ridiculous  115-111 with Wilder getting the first 4 rounds is laughable.

Great fight and in a weird way a draw was prob fair. Wilder was closet to winning, Fury never looked like KOing him at any stage but was better overall, hence why I think draw fair result.

I'm a bit out of touch with boxing, and so I may be stating the obvious, but I think these 2 would both batter AJ.

Fury goes down at 45 and gets up at 57 do the math.

Angry Dad wrote:Fury goes down at 45 and gets up at 57 do the math.

I don't need to do the maths.

The referee does not keep the count - the official timekeeper does.

It's basic stuff that if you really follow boxing you would know.

I got up early to watch the fight, and was sorry I had.

After seeing quite a few of the greats in my time, this pair of planks simply don't cut it.

I’m with BTID and Rusty on this. Fury basically stopped Wilder from doing anything until the 9th and the two knockdowns were far too late to turnover the scorecard
However Bonce has a fair point inasmuch that it was all too buddy buddy compared to the classic battles.
And with another payday to come for both I just hope that someone does something to restore a bit of competitiveness for the heavyweight division.