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Wilder v Fury

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21Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Mon Dec 03 2018, 20:38

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I take my hat off to Fury because I thought Wilder would be too quick and strong for him but I was wrong. Credit where it is due for getting up from that brutal knockdown in the 12th because he was clearly out cold for a few seconds. A rematch and another tasty payday will no doubt be on the cards for both fighters and the winner can then take on AJ so he can win all the belts.

22Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 11:01

Angry Dad

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Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

Sluffy wrote:
Angry Dad wrote:Fury goes down at 45 and gets up at 57 do the math.

I don't need to do the maths.

The referee does not keep the count - the official timekeeper does.

It's basic stuff that if you really follow boxing you would know
If i really follow boxing?? you sanctimonious prat, i used to box and i don't need you to tell me anything, that count was dodgy at best it took that ref time to get down and start a late count is what i am saying and from the time fury hit the deck and got up it was well over 10 seconds he got a lucky break.

23Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 11:52

Sluffy

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Angry Dad wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Angry Dad wrote:Fury goes down at 45 and gets up at 57 do the math.

I don't need to do the maths.

The referee does not keep the count - the official timekeeper does.

It's basic stuff that if you really follow boxing you would know
If i really follow boxing?? you sanctimonious prat, i used to box and i don't need you to tell me anything, that count was dodgy at best it took that ref time to get down and start a late count is what i am saying and from the time fury hit the deck and got up it was well over 10 seconds he got a lucky break.

I know what you are saying but the ref could have gone for a cup of tea and a cigarette whilst the count was on because he's not the one that matters - it's the timekeeper that officiates on this.

Similarly the referee has no say in the marking of the fight, three 'independent' judges are agreed to score the fight by both boxers sides prior to the fight.

Both these things are done to prevent the referee having a direct influence on the fight as did happen in the past.

It's school boy stuff this and something everybody who follows boxing would know.

24Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 11:59

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

From the time he went down, to the fight continuing took 22 seconds.

25Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 14:19

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

But if the ref had started the count on the exact moment he hit the canvas there wouldn’t be another rematch/ payday for either of them or their backers so obviously they weren’t going to let that happen.

26Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 14:52

Sluffy

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wanderlust wrote:But if the ref had started the count on the exact moment he hit the canvas there wouldn’t be another rematch/ payday for either of them or their backers so obviously they weren’t going to let that happen.

The ref doesn't do the count you nutjob!

He relays it from the official timekeeper.

How difficult is that to understand?

And if even if Fury was counted out, the whole of the boxing world would have been clamouring for a rematch, knowing that Fury was winning the fight up to the time!

27Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 15:08

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Sluffy wrote:
wanderlust wrote:But if the ref had started the count on the exact moment he hit the canvas there wouldn’t be another rematch/ payday for either of them or their backers so obviously they weren’t going to let that happen.

The ref doesn't do the count you nutjob!

He relays it from the official timekeeper.

How difficult is that to understand?

And if even if Fury was counted out, the whole of the boxing world would have been clamouring for a rematch, knowing that Fury was winning the fight up to the time!
Sorreeeeeeeeeee. 

If the ref had started to relay the count then.

Who gives a shit? The point is the same dickhead.

28Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 15:24

Sluffy

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wanderlust wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
wanderlust wrote:But if the ref had started the count on the exact moment he hit the canvas there wouldn’t be another rematch/ payday for either of them or their backers so obviously they weren’t going to let that happen.

The ref doesn't do the count you nutjob!

He relays it from the official timekeeper.

How difficult is that to understand?

And if even if Fury was counted out, the whole of the boxing world would have been clamouring for a rematch, knowing that Fury was winning the fight up to the time!
Sorreeeeeeeeeee. 

If the ref had started to relay the count then.

Who gives a shit? The point is the same dickhead.

It's not the same though is it!

A Wilder KO and Fury's winning performance to that point would have created a HUGE demand for a rematch - but now Wilder is more than likely going to avoid Fury knowing that he was a beaten man until that one punch - and he's also seen now that Fury can take his best shot and still get up off the canvass.

In fact NOT being KO-ed makes a rematch very much more unlikely now in the near future, whilst a KO would created a huge public demand for one - the exact opposite of what you were saying!

29Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Tue Dec 04 2018, 15:53

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Did I say dickhead? Sorry I meant to say cockwomble.

30Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 16:40

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

Well they have just shown the timekeepers clock and Fury did not beat the count Wilder ko'd him,on the 10 secs mark Fury is still on the deck.

31Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 16:45

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

So it's Wilder who has been robbed of a fantastic ko win.

32Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 17:21

Sluffy

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Angry Dad wrote:Well they have just shown the timekeepers clock and Fury did not beat the count Wilder ko'd him,on the 10 secs mark Fury is still on the deck.

Still not the referees fault.

33Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 19:59

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

Really, he started the count late and then fury grabbed hold of him to steady himself while he gave fury a sobriety test Shocked i mean shit that ref seemed to want fury to continue most refs would have waved it off at the 9 mark after a killer ko like that, but whatever we get to go again.

34Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 20:50

Sluffy

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Angry Dad wrote:Really, he started the count late and then fury grabbed hold of him to steady himself while he gave fury a sobriety test Shocked i mean shit that ref seemed to want fury to continue most refs would have waved it off at the 9 mark after a killer ko like that, but whatever we get to go again.

Once and for all the count as NOTHING to do with the referee!

The British Boxing Board of Control's Rules of Boxing for instance - see Section 3.32

http://bbbofc.com/content/rules-boxing-0

35Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 20:54

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Sluffy wrote:Once and for all the count as NOTHING to do with the referee!


Once and for all, it's HAS.

This cannot go on, it annoys me every single time I see it. If you're doing it to wind me up, it's bloody working!

36Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 21:06

Sluffy

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
Sluffy wrote:Once and for all the count as NOTHING to do with the referee!


Once and for all, it's HAS.

This cannot go on, it annoys me every single time I see it. If you're doing it to wind me up, it's bloody working!

No, not doing it deliberately and much to old to get the hang of it now so sorry but you've going to have to live with it or ignore my posts - whichever you think best.

37Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 21:41

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Very Happy

38Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Wed Dec 05 2018, 22:53

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

It's HAS not AS  and actually it is annoying iv'e never heard anyone say that before, things are livening up.

39Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Thu Dec 06 2018, 12:05

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Referee denies Tyson Fury count against Deontay Wilder was slow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/46467168

40Wilder v Fury - Page 2 Empty Re: Wilder v Fury Thu Dec 06 2018, 14:57

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

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