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121Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Wed Mar 06 2019, 16:53

Nigelbwfc


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Big club with a good fan base?
I think Aston Villa is the only big club between Manchester and London.

Wolves, Birmingham, WBA, Forest, Leicester, Stoke, Derby - for me these are all medium sized clubs.
They're all seen as big clubs in the media. We are sadly not. Our support base seems a lot worse than theirs. 

I take your point, however, they're still getting 20,000+ crowds and Derby 25,000 + crowds. Right now We're struggling to 15000.

122Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Wed Mar 06 2019, 16:57

Nigelbwfc


Nicolas Anelka
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Which is a revenue stream we don't have... Thus why no one wants to buy us. Don't know why people can't admit that.
But we could have as the numbers in Greater Manchester match those of other areas and will probably out strip them if all the housing is built.

They can't all fit in to Man Up and Man City. 

The club and the town need to work closer together. People have to start identifying with the town again. It can happen. 

We need optimists, not pessimists.

123Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Wed Mar 06 2019, 16:58

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Big club with a good fan base?
I think Aston Villa is the only big club between Manchester and London.

Wolves, Birmingham, WBA, Forest, Leicester, Stoke, Derby - for me these are all medium sized clubs.
They're all seen as big clubs in the media. We are sadly not. Our support base seems a lot worse than theirs. 

I take your point, however, they're still getting 20,000+ crowds and Derby 25,000 + crowds. Right now We're struggling to 15000.
I don't see Wolves as bigger than us in normal circumstances, a successful BWFC would attract 20.000 plus crowds, as has been shown in the past.

124Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Wed Mar 06 2019, 17:02

Nigelbwfc


Nicolas Anelka
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Big club with a good fan base?
I think Aston Villa is the only big club between Manchester and London.

Wolves, Birmingham, WBA, Forest, Leicester, Stoke, Derby - for me these are all medium sized clubs.
They're all seen as big clubs in the media. We are sadly not. Our support base seems a lot worse than theirs. 

I take your point, however, they're still getting 20,000+ crowds and Derby 25,000 + crowds. Right now We're struggling to 15000.
I don't see Wolves as bigger than us in normal circumstances, a successful BWFC would attract 20.000 plus crowds, as has been shown in the past.
Unfortunately outside Bolton many journal consider them bigger than us.


They have had 30,000 in their ground in the last 12 months. We couldn't even get that many on.

125Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Wed Mar 06 2019, 23:01

Sluffy

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A hour of my life I won't get back but for anyone interested a BBC Radio Manchester 'special' about the club featuring the likes of Tetlow from the ST, Jack Dearden, Iles and McGinlay - funnily enough the exact same four who were on Question and Answer 'panel' BBC Manchester held in Bolton the other day.


You would think by now that they would grasp the simple fact the although Anderson owns the club, the club is a LIMITED COMPANY, which means that club trades based on its income and expenditure and it is NOT the responsibility for Anderson to put his hand in his pocket to bail it out with his own personal money.

Anyway link here if anyone is bothered.

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126Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 09:07

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
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BN saying a deal is imminent and that the most likely buyer is Basran's group which is a bit of an unknown quantity. My guess - and it is a guess before the trolls are all over my every word again - is that having seen the accounts and walked away once, they've come back with a reduced offer which Anderson facing the prospect of the club collapsing around his ears has been forced to accept. It may even be the case that part of their offer was to front the money to sort out the wages and ensure the game goes ahead on Saturday.

Hopefully we'll find out a bit more about Basran's group, their intentions and their finances as soon as the deal is complete.

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
A takeover at Bolton Wanderers is on course to be completed quickly, The Bolton News understands.

Ken Anderson claimed yesterday to be in negotiation with “several” parties over the sale of his majority stake but one – the consortium headed by Parminder Basran and Sharron Brittan is thought to be ahead of the pack.

The current owner is aiming to hand over control by the end of the week, and with the EFL promising a swift ratification process, he might just get his wish.

Wanderers trio David Wheater, Remi Matthews and Jason Lowe visited stadium staff yesterday to try and boost morale among staff who have not yet been paid their February wages.

Anderson agreed a deal to pay match-day employees today, with full-time staff set to get their money tomorrow.

The agreement ensured Saturday’s game against Millwall will go ahead after a threat from Bolton Council to withdraw the stadium’s safety certificate.

The EFL made a brief statement to acknowledge the decision, adding: “The EFL will continue to assist the club in finding a permanent solution to the current challenges the club faces.”

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128Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 10:20

bryan458

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Am i having a De Ja Vu episode ??

129Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 11:16

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Am i having a De Ja Vu episode ??
It is a getting like Groundhog day. It's no surprise that Anderson is still trying to up the ante by continuing to talk publicly about there being more than one group interested in buying, despite the fact that the club is on it's knees and everyone knows how desperate to sell he is. Surely he can't mess this one up?

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130Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 11:32

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Billionaire interest with Kenyon or a business consortium with a few quid.

I think we'll know what we'll end up with.

131Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 11:33

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Billionaire interest with Kenyon or a business consortium with a few quid.

I think we'll know what we'll end up with.

Doesn’t Basran have ties to billionaires too?

132Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 11:59

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Billionaire interest with Kenyon or a business consortium with a few quid.

I think we'll know what we'll end up with.

Doesn’t Basran have ties to billionaires too?
Not that we know of. As far as I can tell so far, he has two partners and between them they have roughly the same money as Anderson, but although the companies they are involved in have substantial assets, their creditors exceed their assets. 
TBH I think our best hope is that they are fronting the bid for someone else.

133Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 12:13

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Basran personally knows the co founder of Facebook. Not that I’m saying he’s necessarily involved

134Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 12:20

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I follow some billionaires on twitter too which is about as close as he is to that guy.

135Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 12:22

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I follow some billionaires on twitter too which is about as close as he is to that guy.

He invests for him.

136Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 12:24

DEANO82

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Tony Kelly
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Billionaire interest with Kenyon or a business consortium with a few quid.

I think we'll know what we'll end up with.

Doesn’t Basran have ties to billionaires too?
I believe the co founder of Facebook once lent him a tie.

137Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 13:09

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Rumour is that Mark Warburton is still involved with the Basran deal. That could be a game changer - and possibly a manager changer.

138Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 13:13

DEANO82

DEANO82
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Rumour is that Mark Warburton is still involved with the Basran deal. That could be a game changer - and possibly a manager changer.
Heard a rumour Mark Warburton was interested in buying Charlton.

139Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 13:22

DEANO82

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Tony Kelly
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Can't be many ex bankers who have experience of top level football.

140Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 13:51

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
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Can't be many ex bankers who have experience of top level football.
Damn!
Meanwhile Iles reckons that the wages were paid today by the Whites hotel rather than the club. Hmmm....

141Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 15:00

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I'm staying behind the sofa until Toadface has gone.

Please let me know as soon as  possible when the new owners have completed the deal.

142Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 15:22

DEANO82

DEANO82
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
No wonder he didn't pay any of the bills with people calling him Toadface on the internet, he has got feelings you know.

143Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 15:29

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
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144Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 15:32

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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BOLTON. The Game of Thrones bit coming closer. The other way to skin the [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Davies family having a major say in proceedings. They have given a loan and want it back. They could even deal with a buyer instead if Anderson stalls on paying them. They want Eddie’s money now.


Tweet from Nixon.

145Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 15:53

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
What the fuck does that even mean the jock twat

146Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 15:57

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:What the fuck does that even mean the jock twat
Basically that Anderson hasn't paid them the £5m loan that ED loaned him, so they take control of Anderson's shares and deal with sale themselves.

147Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 15:59

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:What the fuck does that even mean the jock twat
It means they want paying and if Anderson doesn't cough up there's an agreement which implies they are given Anderson's shares for defaulting on the loan they gave him. If they get Anderson's shares, they will be the ones who do the deal with the potential buyers, not Anderson.

148Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 16:01

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:What the fuck does that even mean the jock twat
It means they want paying and if Anderson doesn't cough up there's an agreement which implies they are given Anderson's shares for defaulting on the loan they gave him. If they get Anderson's shares, they will be the ones who do the deal with the potential buyers, not Anderson.
There's an echo in here.

149Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 17:03

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
NIXON TWITTER

BOLTON. Players had meeting today. Want to be paid by 5 tomorrow. Or consequences.

150Club Future - Administration or bust? - Page 5 Empty Re: Club Future - Administration or bust? on Thu Mar 07 2019, 17:35

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
They won't score more than 1 goal in any match and sometimes they won't score any goals at all.



Much the same as usual then.

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