My mate refused to vote last time, because they wouldn't let his dog in.rammywhite wrote:But how many of you will get off your arses and actually go and vote?
I won't be bothered unless I'm walking the dog past the polling station. And I let the dog decide where he wants to go
CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON.
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Norpig
luckyPeterpiper
Cajunboy
finlaymcdanger
okocha
rammywhite
boltonbonce
karlypants
Angry Dad
sunlight
Buellix
xmiles
gloswhite
Natasha Whittam
Hipster_Nebula
19 posters
Who will you vote for.
21 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Wed May 08 2019, 12:07
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
22 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Wed May 08 2019, 12:08
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
That is Theresa mays fault for not completing brexit.boltonbonce wrote:Election to a parliament they don't want to be in? It's like me joining a meat eaters club.
Mind you, I'd do it if I was guaranteed some financial benefits.
All I'd have to do is moan about meat eaters, and pocket the dosh.
23 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Wed May 08 2019, 12:10
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
karlypants wrote:That is Theresa mays fault for not completing brexit.boltonbonce wrote:Election to a parliament they don't want to be in? It's like me joining a meat eaters club.
Mind you, I'd do it if I was guaranteed some financial benefits.
All I'd have to do is moan about meat eaters, and pocket the dosh.
25 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Wed May 08 2019, 12:46
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
The only responsible choice in the current "climate":
https://news.sky.com/story/green-wave-predicted-as-party-launches-eu-elections-campaign-11714410
https://news.sky.com/story/green-wave-predicted-as-party-launches-eu-elections-campaign-11714410
26 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Wed May 08 2019, 14:22
Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
What KP said.boltonbonce wrote:To what end? It's pointless.Angry Dad wrote:Brexit Party
27 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Wed May 08 2019, 22:54
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
All these parties laying out what they are about. Remind me someone, did we or did we not have a referendum a year or two back, where it was decided, and backed by all the parties, to leave the EU ?okocha wrote:The only responsible choice in the current "climate":
https://news.sky.com/story/green-wave-predicted-as-party-launches-eu-elections-campaign-11714410
How dishonorable to just ignore the majority of voters in such a way.
28 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Wed May 08 2019, 23:01
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Politicians have been ignoring voters for years. This is nothing new.
29 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Thu May 09 2019, 00:23
finlaymcdanger
Frank Worthington
Natasha Whittam wrote:T.R.O.Y wrote:But I’ll vote Labour, only a good thing to have more Labour voices.
You should vote on policies, not on tradition.
Idiot.
Why do you plan to vote for the Brexit Party?
30 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Thu May 09 2019, 15:45
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
What's dishonourable, Glos, are the lies, half-truths and misrepresentations that we were fed.......and we were expected to cast a meaningful vote on that basis! It was not possible to vote with any accuracy or certainty. (Thanks Dave et al !!)gloswhite wrote:All these parties laying out what they are about. Remind me someone, did we or did we not have a referendum a year or two back, where it was decided, and backed by all the parties, to leave the EU ?okocha wrote:The only responsible choice in the current "climate":
https://news.sky.com/story/green-wave-predicted-as-party-launches-eu-elections-campaign-11714410
How dishonorable to just ignore the majority of voters in such a way.
The complete omission of any mention of Ireland's particular problem is, on its own, enough reason to hold a new ballot. May gets several goes at getting it right but the public only gets one, nearly 3 years later??! Be serious!
And the stark realisation about the threat posed by climate change should be at the top of the agenda when considering manifestos and a final vote. It is a scandal that it has taken youngsters and a 93 year-old to bring the truth to our attention.
The future of the world and its inhabitants is at stake, way more important that political posturing.
31 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Thu May 09 2019, 16:21
Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
What bollox, honor the vote you bastards we knew what we wanted OUT spells OUT.okocha wrote:What's dishonourable, Glos, are the lies, half-truths and misrepresentations that we were fed.......and we were expected to cast a meaningful vote on that basis! It was not possible to vote with any accuracy or certainty. (Thanks Dave et al !!)gloswhite wrote:All these parties laying out what they are about. Remind me someone, did we or did we not have a referendum a year or two back, where it was decided, and backed by all the parties, to leave the EU ?okocha wrote:The only responsible choice in the current "climate":
https://news.sky.com/story/green-wave-predicted-as-party-launches-eu-elections-campaign-11714410
How dishonorable to just ignore the majority of voters in such a way.
The complete omission of any mention of Ireland's particular problem is, on its own, enough reason to hold a new ballot. May gets several goes at getting it right but the public only gets one, nearly 3 years later??! Be serious!
And the stark realisation about the threat posed by climate change should be at the top of the agenda when considering manifestos and a final vote. It is a scandal that it has taken youngsters and a 93 year-old to bring the truth to our attention.
The future of the world and its inhabitants is at stake, way more important that political posturing.
33 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 13:59
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
I have always been a believer that if something needs to be sorted, make a decision one way or another. If its right, all well and good. If its wrong, then we know where it went wrong and it can be fixed. We now have ourselves in a situation where we are trying to fix Brexit before it has been resolved according to the referendum. The process has been meddled with almost to the point that nothing can be resolved, .... other than follow the referendum as originally offered, and we leave without all the tinkering that so many seem to think is their right. (I'm referring to the MP's, not XM )
34 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 14:30
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
If you make a decision and then realise it was the wrong decision before it is implemented (buying a used car for example), surely you would revisit your decision if you could (not buy the car once you learned its history) glos.
It is pretty clear most people, and certainly most MPs, think May's deal is a bad deal so logically we should revisit the decision to leave the EU.
It is pretty clear most people, and certainly most MPs, think May's deal is a bad deal so logically we should revisit the decision to leave the EU.
35 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 15:08
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
I couldn't care less about brexit anymore. But I do wish to send Westminster a message.
36 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 15:13
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
gloswhite wrote:I have always been a believer that if something needs to be sorted, make a decision one way or another. If its right, all well and good. If its wrong, then we know where it went wrong and it can be fixed. We now have ourselves in a situation where we are trying to fix Brexit before it has been resolved according to the referendum. The process has been meddled with almost to the point that nothing can be resolved, .... other than follow the referendum as originally offered, and we leave without all the tinkering that so many seem to think is their right. (I'm referring to the MP's, not XM )
37 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 20:31
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Good analogy, and I agree with the principle. However, your second paragraph is dealing only with the deal May 'negotiated'.xmiles wrote:If you make a decision and then realise it was the wrong decision before it is implemented (buying a used car for example), surely you would revisit your decision if you could (not buy the car once you learned its history) glos.
It is pretty clear most people, and certainly most MPs, think May's deal is a bad deal so logically we should revisit the decision to leave the EU.
To keep the analogy going, I believe we have made the decision to buy, (i.e. leave), but before handing over the cash, and sorting the the finer point, we make the mistake of listening to bystanders, and we decide to ask for everyone else's view, on every aspect of the car itself, the dealer, the finances, whether we can afford to buy it, or if we would lose our deposit if we walked away. We would even take advice from people who didn't want the deal in the first place, and would want to do things their own way in making the deal, (and changing the law to do so). We are now stuck with a car that half of us want, half of us don't, some want to pay cash, some want to pay on HP, and others want to walk away.
The thing is, we agreed to buy the car, and even though it has devalued while all the bartering has taken place, we still have to stand by our word, and pay the price agreed. We are now discussing how we would pay, and not if.
38 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 20:32
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Meant to say, we are all now standing on the forecourt arguing, with nothing happening.
39 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 21:01
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
gloswhite wrote:Meant to say, we are all now standing on the forecourt arguing, with nothing happening.
Time to walk away from it then.
Too drunk to deal with your detailed reply to my analogy.
40 Re: CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON. Fri May 10 2019, 21:26
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
I'm voting for this guy. He even picks up my postal vote.
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